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  1. Iron Services

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    TucsonFiger use of bots and stolen account

    Scammer's profile link: TucsonFiger
    Amount scammed: 25m osrs gp and 2 bond codes
    Discord ID + Unique Discord: tucsonfiger UID: 1127106539300335696
    Proof that it's their Discord: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/958789673608691752/1143567071179980820/chrome_cJu2USFW04.gif
    Explanation of the trade: x3 DS2 acc (work not finished)
    How they scammed:
    On 7/31 I asked him to do 3 ds2 accounts for me and he said he would accept it and that he would personally do the work, so I asked him not to do that, to use 1 worker individually for each account (with what he agreed to)
    for the first update the 3 accounts had almost the same progress and the captures were sent with the phone client
    For the second update something similar happened, 3 accounts with a very similar progress between accounts (which seemed strange to me)
    So I proceeded to ask why the 3 accounts were being worked by only 1 person (when our agreement was another, it should be noted that for this second update 14 days have already passed, being the date 08/13)
    For the last update (08/20) I decided to review the status of each account and one of them had a temporary ban of 1 day from 08/09 to 08/10 (11 days after starting the service)


    After talking about the ticket for a while, I proceeded to ask him for the screenshots that RL automatically takes when a quest is done or a new level is obtained.
    the first response was, "wait a minute, they are going to send them"
    After about 10 minutes have passed, they tell me that unfortunately they don't have the screenshots of the accounts, at that moment they probably remembered that they supposedly played on the phone (it should be noted that at this point the work was being done by 1 person, which means that person worked 2 or 3 accounts on the phone simultaneously according to what he says)
    https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/958789673608691752/1143574706381914245/image.png
    https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/958789673608691752/1143574958992281672/image.png

    Something else that I would like to highlight is that in each update sent, the accounts had a game time of 1 minute on average, which seems strange to me, considering that at least 1 account is supposed to be worked on PC, why Doesn't that account have a longer game time than the others at the time of the update?
    I thought that the answer to this was that @TucsonFiger connected and took the captures, but the reality is that the worker was the one who sent the captures
    https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/958789673608691752/1143575545234337842/image.png

    after all this happened, the account that was temporarily banned was stolen and added to a Jagex account, making it impossible to recover
    https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/958789673608691752/1143568921576878180/image.png

    I can provide access to the ticket so the mod handling this report can see everything they need

    Other relevant trade screenshots:
    https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/958789673608691752/1143567824527311000/image.png
    https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/958789673608691752/1143579548257091674/image.png
     
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  2. TucsonFiger

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    TucsonFiger use of bots and stolen account

    This is absolutely ridiculous, I have not stolen anything. Much less will I steal such a ridiculous amount. I manage many more accounts than you gave me. I do my job sincerely and honestly. I will not let you tarnish my reputation.

    You took the 3 jobs from me because 1 account was banned for using bots (the accounts were uploaded entirely by hand).

    Normally these are my terms when I do jobs.

    https://prnt.sc/IMMvU4FIa4aH

    I always make it clear that in case of bans, everyone knows that sometimes there are random bans that can happen.

    I don't know where you are going with this, I was waiting to hear back from you to agree on something. I never heard back.

    What was the theft?

    Besides I told you that the accounts were uploaded by 1 worker. And you let me continue for a long time until you decided to remove the accounts about to be finished, which seems very unfair to me because he spent 20 days uploading 3 accounts for you to remove them.

    Also I don't understand your terms and conditions, you should pay for the work done on the other accounts so far.

    One account was compromised, that's fine. Don't pay that one was banned and has black marks. Ok

    The other ones you removed because you wanted to win in this. Without any black marks, you removed a job that was about to be finished.

    I have not stolen anything and much less that amount, I currently manage other accounts and I have no problem, it is very clear, you want to take advantage.

    I am waiting for a reply from you

    https://prnt.sc/yp6AU5IE_Cln

    I will post other evidence here

    I took what screenshots I could, I knew you were going to pull me off the ticket and I had to get evidence to defend myself against anything.

    Also that you can manipulate the ticket, being the owner of your server at your convenience. by bots, deleting messages, /makesay, among other things to manipulate the conversation at your convenience.


    ttps://prnt.sc/2BsJS7-eqJ3a

    https://prnt.sc/y3QIG59dv677

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    removed

    removed

    https://prnt.sc/kYtNpCLgB6Yd
     
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    TucsonFiger use of bots and stolen account

    I never logged in to the accounts, to avoid bans due to IP change. Being responsible with it and watching the worker obviously.

    We worked in the following way, you asked me for an update every Sunday. The worker works 1 on pc and 2 on phone, it is not impossible.

    He would log in on pc to take screenshots of each of the accounts and send them to me on Discord, obviously right there on pc.

    I would ask him for the screenshots and wait for it, and I would pass them to you.

    Normally I would send the screenshots, when I just logged into each of the accounts. Starting to work obviously, or in the evening starting to work.

    You spent many days, time that I will never recover neither I, nor the worker, uploading that account, it seems to me very unfair and very bad of you that in spite of everything you call me a scammer. You took 2 accounts from me that had no problem.

    I worked for you, not for a 3rd party, not for your client, I worked for you, you should pay for the time worked on those accounts, in the end, you have them.

    It makes me think that you will look for someone else to do the work quickly, with 6 days left to completely finish the 3 accounts, and save yourself some money, how unfair it all seems to me.
     
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    TucsonFiger use of bots and stolen account

    I never accepted or even saw these terms, instead you accepted mine
     
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    TucsonFiger use of bots and stolen account

    if you don't understand them, you should have asked or not accept the job

    that amount is what was invested in the stolen account so far, 25m osrs gp and 2 membership codes, because I have to recreate the account for the client now it is my responsibility to add the gold


    the other 2 accounts were removed for breaching the TOS (which you repeatedly breached), for compromising the accounts (even if they weren't banned, you have no proof that they were done by hand)

    that's right, you work for me, that's why it was me who made the decision to remove the accounts, not the client
     
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    That's right, the work was assigned to someone else to complete, but it's not 6 days of work since you only had 50% progress on this
     
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    TucsonFiger use of bots and stolen account

    I have not stolen anything, I will wait for a moderator to see what he thinks, it seems unfair to me.

    You take from me the jobs with 80%-85% done, with a lack of finishing.

    You excuse yourself saying that you can't pay me because your client hasn't paid you. When I have worked for you not for your client and you refuse to pay me for the work done.

    Besides you do it at your convenience, you save money and hire someone else for less money. I consider it unfair, if the account is so compromised, why did you hire someone else? You give me to understand that the account is no good, stopped working or something else, Everyone knows about Jagex's random bans, you just want to take advantage of me.

    I am a good worker, and you are wrong with what you are doing.

    You were very demanding, of bad treatment, many times you spoke to me badly. I tried to adapt to it, this thing you are doing makes it even worse than it is.

    If the Moderator is of the opinion that I have to pay the amount you say I "ripped off" I will, but in my opinion, I didn't steal anything, besides in your terms it doesn't say I have to pay anything per banned account, you yourself say a banned account is useless.

    I hope justice is done, this is very unfair, you worked a long time on those accounts and you do that at your convenience, missing 6 days to finish the accounts.

    The accounts were totally handmade, your terms and conditions don't work, One account was compromised and you remove 3 accounts from
     
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    I hope justice is done, this is very unfair, we worked a long time on those accounts and you do it at your convenience, missing 6 days to finish the accounts.
     
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    TucsonFiger use of bots and stolen account

    I need the terms that were agreed to for the order, i only see the terms that were supposedly not in play
     
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    Another thing, it doesn't make sense to send me to replenish all the gold too, if you emptied the bank before changing the password.

    Basically you want to rob me, in every way, you took 2 orders from me and also.

    If the accounts are so compromised, useless, why are you giving them to other people? You are stealing from me, you didn't let me finish the order and you want to save money by hiring other people.
     
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    Please, Mr. moderator, I ask you to review the case in detail, I lost 20 days uploading the account, totally by hand. 1 account was banned and they took away my other accounts, I find this very unfair, they are just taking advantage, they should at least pay me for the work I did, almost 85% of the account, 6-8 days left to finish.

    now they want me to give the gp? from an account which had gp left over and Iron emptied it?
     
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    please bro, do not fall into that circle, your last messages have been basically the same

    I will take the time to answer you and explain my point of view to the best of my ability.

    when I say that the account was compromised, I mean the fact that they were exposed to the use of bots (which is a violation of these TOS and blah blah blah, same song)
    that does not mean that the accounts have to be started from scratch and if that were the case then you could not be paid for the work done on the 2 accounts that were removed either

    you seem pretty sure the account was emptied, is it possible you still have access to that account? and if that is the case then you are admitting again that you stole the account, in any case never log into those accounts even after they changed your passwords (this for account security, another ban would not be nice at all in this moment)


    85% of the work? that's another lie, an account didn't even have 50% progress
     
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    80%-85% of the work. It was a work done entirely by hand. The worker told me that you emptied the bank before you changed the passwords, obviously he saw the empty bank and contacted me. I don't want your answer, you want to scam me, I want an answer from the moderator's point of view.

    If the worker used the bot so much, why aren't the other accounts banned? Let me finish the accounts I started, you are taking away 20 days of work that I will never get back, and yes, with 80%-85% progress.

    Firts accounts

    https://prnt.sc/UdytcV0pHk27
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    I was planning to upload those photos later but thanks for coming in advance, you make my job easier


    taking into account that the original request was for
    DS2
    70 mele
    75 range
    70 prayer
    75magic
    full void
    Barrows Gloves salve amulet (ei)

    this first account can be said to be 65% complete in my opinion

    this second account was later banned and stolen

    Come on, don't tell me you really think this is 80% complete?
    In my opinion it is only 35% complete

    How could it be possible if I didn't even notify you when the client changed the password?
    Coincidentally there was a cleaning during our conversation and only at this moment are you going to mention it? It is assumed that while we were talking, your worker was connected to the accounts, right?
     
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    And why mention an empty bank if that is not the reason for the report?
    The reason why I want that gold to be returned is because a new account must be made to replace the one that was banned and I consider that it is your responsibility to replenish that gold and the membership that was added.
     
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    You are asking for 25m + 2 bond, you took 10-15m left over from that account, I don't know the exact amount, yet you ask for that? 0 logical.
     
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    I would like the moderator to review the ticket
     
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