[APPROVED] People shouldn't be allowed to use CDT/PR as a sign of trust

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[APPROVED] People shouldn't be allowed to use CDT/PR as a sign of trust
  1. Unread #1 - Mar 12, 2019 at 10:06 PM
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    [APPROVED] People shouldn't be allowed to use CDT/PR as a sign of trust

    I've seen a few threads lately where in the thread title they advertise that they are "CDT/PR" which is clearly the person trying to use their position in said role to gain some kind of trust.

    If being a member of CDT/PR is seen as any kind of trust symbol that is going to make scam quitting a lot more tempting/easier for a lot of people.

    Back in 2013 when I was fairly new I got MOTM and I had advertised it in my thread titles and didn't know better but was quickly shut down because things like MOTM and CDT are not roles of trust. You shouldn't be misleading newer members into thinking just because you have a shiny badge that says CDT means you're more trusted than someone who doesn't have one.
     
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  3. Unread #2 - Mar 12, 2019 at 11:57 PM
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    [APPROVED] People shouldn't be allowed to use CDT/PR as a sign of trust

    Thanks for messaging me on Discord, I appreciate it (even if it is almost 4AM)

    I would like to mention 2 things here:

    1) If people should not allowed to use it in their titles why should they be allowed to use it in their threads?

    example image here:

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    2) Should this also mean things like "Member of the Year" and "Biggest Postwhore of the Year" should also not be allowed to be used as a form of trust, I understand if you are voted Most Trustworthy of 2018 but Member of the Year certainly shouldn't be allowed to be used as a form of trust
     
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  5. Unread #3 - Mar 13, 2019 at 12:03 AM
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    [APPROVED] People shouldn't be allowed to use CDT/PR as a sign of trust

    I don't think anything that doesn't actually put you in an actual position of trust with monetary value (e.g OMM) should be allowed to be advertised. I understand that some moderators/ex moderators should be allowed to advertise as such because at times I was holding $2k+ for scam repayments although I'm happy to remove it from my threads if it means CDT/PR is also removed.
     
  7. Unread #4 - Mar 13, 2019 at 12:04 AM
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    [APPROVED] People shouldn't be allowed to use CDT/PR as a sign of trust

    Well, CDT and PR are officially run groups, right?
    They're individuals given a responsibility within Sythe and represent Sythe in various places.
    They're being trusted, with that responsibility.

    If I had my way, it'd be against the rules to put any type of role/rank in your threads and their titles.
    I doubt that would ever happen, but it is my opinion that the only true form of a 'trusted' rank would be a rank in which if they were to scam you, a responsible party, in this case Sythe itself, would take liability for that user and their actions and compensate for any scams or losses due to that.
     
  9. Unread #5 - Mar 13, 2019 at 12:13 AM
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    [APPROVED] People shouldn't be allowed to use CDT/PR as a sign of trust

    I can understand where you are coming from.

    I am not disagreeing with you at all. I'm just saying that if they aren't allowed to put it in their titles then they shouldn't be allowed to put it in their threads and member of the year should definitely not be used as a form of trust.

    I understand that CDT leaders are put into a position of trust as they do hold money for events (including sponsorships) however even CDT leader position can be abused, just take a look at this guy Paper Shark
     
  11. Unread #6 - Mar 13, 2019 at 12:37 AM
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    [APPROVED] People shouldn't be allowed to use CDT/PR as a sign of trust

    Who even uses CDT in their titles of their threads lmao?

    This isn't even a rhetorical question i'm genuinely curious.
     
  13. Unread #7 - Mar 13, 2019 at 12:37 AM
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    [APPROVED] People shouldn't be allowed to use CDT/PR as a sign of trust

    CDT/PR are NOT signs of trust, but what it does show is dedication towards a site. The badge shows voluntary work dedicated by us to the site, why would we not be able to display this? We put in work, can we not be credited and be allowed to advertise that?
    Displaying your rank in your advertisement should 100% be allowed, just like you said yourself chloe, being on staff doesn't mean you're trusted, but as you can see most / every staff member have it in their advertisements.

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    you have ex-global in your title, you've said that staff are not trusted, so you're given false hope/misrepresentation here.

    Once again, you're advertising an achievement.
     
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  15. Unread #8 - Mar 13, 2019 at 12:50 AM
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    Who cares about what goes in someones title as long as its true? Take that title and form your own opinions on how "trusted" it makes someone.
     
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    [APPROVED] People shouldn't be allowed to use CDT/PR as a sign of trust

    No support whatsoever to this or any suggestions you have made on this thread.


    Why is [TRUSTED] allowed in titles?

    That should be removed.

    Why are sectional moderators allowed to put [MOD] in their title; many have shown significantly less trust than regular members.

    Why are ex-staff alllowed to put that in their title? They are no longer staff; just because they once were doesn't mean they should be able to.

    ALSO, thanks for calling me out- I have never once put in ANY TITLE of any thread of mine about PR or CDT.

    Also; if you're going to target tags people put in their thread titles; these should all be removed:
    1. [TRUSTED]
    2. [PROFESSIONAL]
    3. [DONOR]
    4. [CEO of Tesla]
    5. [No longer Global Admin on Dead Discord]
    6. [Admin of random discord]
    7. [Ex-Staff]
    8. [Ex-Admin]
    9. [Ex-Mod]
    What you are suggesting, should be applied to everything.

    Listing your achievements in a thread is acceptable.
     
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  19. Unread #10 - Mar 13, 2019 at 1:19 AM
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    [APPROVED] People shouldn't be allowed to use CDT/PR as a sign of trust

    Good point Mumble.

    Give me one example of someone who uses CR / PDT in their THREAD TITLE itself @Seraphic @Management @Jesus07
     
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    [APPROVED] People shouldn't be allowed to use CDT/PR as a sign of trust

    People have put cdt and or something similar in the title but it's always been edited out a recent case from last week was when one of the cdt member's added staff into the title of the thread because they are cdt?
     
  23. Unread #12 - Mar 13, 2019 at 1:53 AM
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    [APPROVED] People shouldn't be allowed to use CDT/PR as a sign of trust

    CDT/PR are technically staff as we are employeed to work on the site/host events for the site, even tho there isn’t any monetary gain, you can look at it as experience gained.
    Definition of staff “all the people employeed by a particular organization” CDT/PR/TC work for Sythe as do mods
     
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  25. Unread #13 - Mar 13, 2019 at 2:15 AM
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    [APPROVED] People shouldn't be allowed to use CDT/PR as a sign of trust

    Haha what. No, you are not 'technically staff', such as Mods.
     
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    [APPROVED] People shouldn't be allowed to use CDT/PR as a sign of trust

    Can you express why

    Edit* you will probably be interpreting staff as a role of power, which it’s not.
     
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  29. Unread #15 - Mar 13, 2019 at 3:18 AM
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    Here you go.

    Staff is a role of power, they have access to people's full IPs, emails, and an array of other things.

    Also as I said, I'm more than happy to remove ex-mod from my title if this is put into place. Although I was trusted with a significant amount of money while I was mod for the scam repayment events. CDT members are not trusted with anything other than a shiny badge.
     
  31. Unread #16 - Mar 13, 2019 at 3:28 AM
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    [APPROVED] People shouldn't be allowed to use CDT/PR as a sign of trust

    There are a plethora of reasons, but I'll outline a few below.

    1. Community teams are far, far, far easier to be accepted into, than being promoted to a position of staff is.
    2. Staff members handle far more pertinent issues, opposed to that of community team members.
    3. Staff have access to crucial personal information.
    4. Staff actually do maintain a position of power - i.e, banning people, power to vote on pardons, anti-scams, and so on...there are many other elements.
    5. The level of scrutiny once faces from the staff team prior to being accepted is not even a conversation point within community teams.

    The distinction between community teams and staff members to me, and I'm sure countless others is quite obvious and evident.

    Also, to note, I was in the CDT for 2 years, and similarly, I was on staff for around 2-3 years. So, my perspective envelopes both aspects of said positions.

    If you want me to outline anything further, hit me up.
     
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    [APPROVED] People shouldn't be allowed to use CDT/PR as a sign of trust

    Hey,

    The staff member was a joke on my bondholder thread, no one removed that, I removed it myself after 3 mins. it wasn't about CDT role it was about bondholder rank since when you think about it bondholders are technically staff members since they work for Richard processing donations. but it was me joking with admin or 2. it was so I could get this picture here:

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    it was discord joke.

    As for this thread,
    No support, I spend at least 5 - 6 hours or more a week doing CDT stuff, I work countless hours talking to the community, creating events and I have the right to use the badge I use in my title, if this goes through, then remove all right for mods and every other rank to have it in there threads since it's essentially the same thing. Yes it's not a symbol of trust but either is any other role on this site besides OMM/Bond holder which isn't even real symbol of trust when you look at people who have it.

    with this being said I have no issue with this be going through but it has to go for all ranks across the board not just CDT , not just PR, staff members too.
     
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    [APPROVED] People shouldn't be allowed to use CDT/PR as a sign of trust

    I think CDT/PR members should be allowed to have [CDT]/[PR] in their titles, its hardly a compensation for the work that they do for the community.
    And yes, I would argue that someone who volunteers their time and efforts for the community is more trusted than the average joe.

    It's up to the other trader to do their due diligence, just like anything on this website.
     
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  37. Unread #19 - Mar 13, 2019 at 9:01 AM
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    [APPROVED] People shouldn't be allowed to use CDT/PR as a sign of trust

    I personally don't see why is this a big deal.

    I can see why we wanted Nino to change [CDT] from his titles to [CDT member], as we use [CDT] tag for our official events.

    SellerMan made a good distinction between Staff and Community Teams. CDT/PR/TC are indeed community teams.

    However it shouldn't make any difference regarding to the right to use tags, as we allow different tags and some of them are less relevant.

    To defend both sides even with OMM it might give you a false sense of trust, even though I haven't been on sythe long enough to see OMM SQ. Thing is that trust is subjective, BUT people with OMM rank have shown enough trust that even picky staff members have decided that they are trusted enough.

    If we want some exact numbers and not subjective opinions we could look at the rate of OMMs who have SQ.

    We've had a few instances of people joining CDT before they SQ We've also had a tons of instances of people donating money before they SQ (we could look at the rate of CDT members that SQ / CDT members, same for donors and compare it, though)

    Conclusion: Tags like [ex-mod/CDT/PR/TC/Donor/Voted as XYZ) can be looked up on sythe.org by a regular member and some might find them relevant.

    No support from me
     
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    [APPROVED] People shouldn't be allowed to use CDT/PR as a sign of trust

    Sure no problem

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    I'd like to also mention that I have no issues with any of the users that I have posted above. I have merely posted these threads to show that [CDT] has been used in the title.

    What are you trying to even achieve by tagging me? Also I don't see where Jesus07 is relevant in this post.

    I understand you can keep trolling and thinking you're funny in the suggestion forums but please, if you want to continue trolling take it to the Spam Forums, I've even linked it here for you:
    Spam Forum
     
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