[original owner recovery myth]

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  1. Unread #1 - Jun 1, 2017 at 2:10 AM
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    [original owner recovery myth]

    There is a huge issue atm in the account selling community, it leads a lot of scammers in the game aswell. Over the last 2 months atleast 4-5 tried to do that trick. They buy an acc,(with paypal in some cases) try to resell it saying the original owner, recover it(cause u provided all the information and if they use a vpn from the original country they can recover, also they are the first to link an email to the acc) and then chargeback the usd from paypal and the new owner thinks u scammed them. Nowadays we win almost all paypal chargebacks against us, i cant even think of a time we lost, on acc sales, so the real loser from the game is the new (2nd hand owner)

    I just had a pm from a guy today, asking me if im the original owner of an account HE ALREADY PURCHASED. i told him the above and that the 1st owner who bought the acc has all the information and can recover the account. The guy was so shocked.

    There is a myth about original owners etc, which would be good to be cleared with a sticky thread or something, do not buy accs from people with no vouches/feedback, just because they are the 2nd or 3rd owner of an account by a reputable seller. Best case is, he scams u, i help u recover the acc, he recovers it back and gets it banned on purpose(saw that happen by a known scammed to the new owner, 2 weeks ago)
     
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    So you want a sticky to be made warning users about the dangers of trading with people who aren't reputable and have no vouches? I thought this was common sense.
     
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    Then maybe you shouldn't give your buyers the original details of the account used to recover it if this is a common problem

    That way only you are able to recover it, and this wouldn't happen
     
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    [original owner recovery myth]

    Generally isn't a problem for people like myself who sell the odd account. But for a business dealing with recoveries would mean an increase in workload, therefore they give the info.
    People buying accounts should ask if prior owners were given recovery info, as it varies from seller to seller.
     
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    Average buyers are very ignorant they usually ask for that information or they don't buy the account not realizing they're the only ones losing out by requesting that information(unless they're trying to scam others) no matter what you say to convince them otherwise. There are just loads of these bullshit myths about account trading that usually leads to scams.
     
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    Perhaps better written stickies explaining the possibilities, aside from "accounts can always be recovered" would help this then?

    I know @Chloe recently rewrote a few but it wouldn't hurt to add this too :O
     
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    crazypipe #1 RS Powerleveler / over 1k accs sold

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    ofc i do but the next buyer thinks that the previous one cant recover and only oo can
    i though that aswell but after getting msgd again by a guy asking today i figured it would be helpful


    for example the sticky about accs always being recoverable is very important for many buyers, there is a myth about first email registered on the acc though, thats not important lol, i think most important is country(card if it was used) and using a vpn from that country when submitting the request
     
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    Yeah so don't give the first buyer the account details and that'll make it that much harder to recover
     
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    [original owner recovery myth]

    The only person i sell an acc to is the first buyer, its not in my obligation, perspective, vision, supervision etc what he does after with it, he paid for an acc and the details, normally they dont even want them but i always include all of it. Its their right to own it, like a first hand car basicly(after the dealer produced it). Ofcorse the original dealer(mercedes benz or toyota) can make a new key to open the car, but the first owner after production will keep his keys, some ppl have 2-3 keys and sell the car with 1, thats not an issue with the dealership, its an issue with the person buying it, not checking history, insurance papers etc
     
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    [original owner recovery myth]

    It would probably help a bit, all of these account selling related stickies and rules are outdated. I feel like they should let someone who has some experience with accounts take care of that section properly and keep it relevant instead of keeping it at previous decade.
     
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    This is exactly the answer to this issue. There is absolutely no reason to give anyone else the recovery information to an account. If they don't agree to that, find someone else to sell to. By giving someone untrustworthy full information on an account, you are just contributing to the problem.

    More on-topic, we aren't going to make a sticky that says "don't buy an account from someone with no vouches" that is just too much common sense. I'm sorry this problem has been happening to you but again, you can help yourself out by not handing out complete recovery files on the accounts you sell, as can every other account seller in the market
     
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