original account owner

yeah but that's problem there isn't a clear rule that says you should fully repay the buyer


that's my suggestion they should make one

 

Still. The person who scammed for 276m is only banned for 90days or until he pays me back. I believe it should be permabanned until payback.

 

I believe the account that was sold was in the sellers responsibility for a period after the account was sold, however there could also be claims of recovery from the buyers part, when it was just information changed. The seller and buyer should arange an internal agreement before hand.

 

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Poor dark idi has to deal with the gray area here, the very one you have linked to in the OP. That's why I'm glad I found this thread(don't check suggestions too often), so it can be cleared up better and that a ban/refund is given if there is obvious proof that the account has been recovered and the buyer is unable to access it, no matter how long ago it was.

The seller should know that what they are getting themselves into, in this case buying/selling accounts, is very risky if they didn't make the accounts themselves. If a refund isn't given after proper proof is provided it should be 'goodbye' to them.

 

There is no easy way at all to solve this problem. Especially inexperienced people who buy accounts think that all you need to recover is a registered email (since this is all they need to recover their own account). Especially difficult is the timeline in question. If I sell an account and in 2013, someone asks me to recover it back for him (say, because he was phished), I'll do my damn best to try. However, I may move hundreds or thousands of miles away. It's not my fault he was an idiot and got phished, but according to your proposition I now have to replace the account? What about if it wasn't stolen from the buyer at all--he was merely faking it?

 

I'm talking about the more detailed reports, as most of the time inexperienced people don't show up with the 'proper proof' anyways, it should make it easier(although you can't say for sure whether they are making legitimate claims). It's not always the buyer's fault either; Just because they bought an account from a trusted person and something happens, it doesn't necessarily mean that they are making a false claim/were keylogged/etc., some are actually legitimate. If the seller is that into selling accounts that weren't created by themselves, they should already know the risks they are taking as well.

If I were in a situation like that, I wouldn't mind using say...a mod or someone really highly trusted with teamviewer or just letting them try with the info I was given, etc., so they could see it from my end(as long as I could show that it WAS the info given to me by the seller).

 

^ but this has nothing to do with the fact that he cant even recover the account at all. The recovery information that was given to him doesnt make a succesful appeal.

 

Believe it or not, that's the buyer's own fault. If you want too be safe, go make your own account, and get your own chaotics, etc. Why would you trust other people if you know there's a huge possibility you're going to be scammed?