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One of the Most Controversial Topics of the Century
  1. Unread #1 - Nov 20, 2012 at 11:29 AM
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    Abortion. That word many of times has triggered debate, and many times violence. I personally think it's good and bad on some sides - but I'm not religious, so that may impact my thoughts. What do you guys think of it?
     
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    I feel it as a thing society needs. People claim that the pregnancy is a life, that's of course opinionated widely and my opinion is that it's not. People who accuse it as a murder are obnoxious and need to think about how it would affect their quality of life in the long run. If you're not ready for a kid but are pregnant - don't have it. Have an abortion then wait until you're ready.
     
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    Honestly the single least important thing about abortion is the fetus.
    Quite simply, you might believe that a fetus is alive, but if you can't convince everybody that a fetus is alive, there is no way you can enforce a law that says so. As long as there is demand for abortion there will be supply. It might be expensive, dangerous, or lethal, but you'll still be able to get it.
     
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    As the baby's heart starts to beat after ten days of conception, most people don't realize they're pregnant until 4-6 weeks after. So, technically, it's murder. It's alive once it's heart starts to beat.

    I, for one, don't think it's wrong to get an abortion. There are already so many kids in orphanages and need a home. If you don't want your baby, you have the right to abort it.

    I personally would never be able to get an abortion, though. I'd feel like a monster. I'd never be able to let go of what "could have been" because I always over think everything.
     
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    I would like your source for this, because 10 days after conception - if my biology serves me right - it is still in the rigorous process of subdividing and none of the organs have formed yet. None of the tissues have become separated and it is only a group of cells at that point in time.
     
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    I support abortion, because the baby is unaware of what is going on to it at the time at which it is aborted, and it is saved from what could be a harsh life if the parents are unable to financially or emotional support the child.
     
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    There is a topic that covers this in the SFA section. Also what parts are good and what are bad, in your opinion?
     
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    Well, I believe I would have a few bad points. Overall, I would think that it's someone's choice - while it is still killing something that won't get to be. The reason why I'm still not sure is this one question I ask myself - Is the fetus actually living? Well, technically it is, but is it thinking? Once you're given birth to, do you just not remember what it was like? Do you think while you're in the womb? Science will eventually tell us the answers, but until so, I remain to not comment.
     
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    This was according to my biology teacher a few years back. I don't have stable facts, I'm just going with what I was told.
    I'm not saying that this is a poor reason, but being unaware of something doesn't make it okay to do so.
     
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    Interesting because we're talking about this in one of my classes.

    The government should only be involved in an issue if it affects the governed as a majority. I'm really not saying that right though.

    But, that being said (if anybody can get the point I was trying to make), the government has no right to make a decision regarding abortion since getting an abortion does not effect anybody except the mother and child. Making something a negative right does not mean it also has to be a positive right. The government can choose whether or not to financially support abortion clinics or those that practice abortions, but they do not have a right to say whether people can or can not receive them.

    Hopefully I am making this clear.. I'll try rewording the idea if people don't understand.
     
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    I understand what you're trying to get at. I agree, although, the government gets involved in things that don't affect anyone but a select few if x decision is made. I'd hate to bring this into a topic about sexuality, but take gay marriage for example.
     
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    I personally don't think it's wrong, because there's a lot of situations where having a child is the worst thing that could happen to the parent or the child being born.
     
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    You assholes who get abortions are no better than Casey Anthony. Anybody who cried or got upset or anybody who called her a bitch or a murderer are fucking hyprocrites.
     
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    Abortion shouldn't be allowed, unless of course you're raped.

    Why are you killing your own baby? It's your fault anyways, I think it's all retarded. Obama is retarded as well, he only did it for the votes.

    Do you know how many teens are impregnated nowadays? You can't keep count anymore, allowing abortion allows options for teens to make. There should be only one option and that's use a condom, if not you must want a baby.

    As for older adults not wanting kids, well same goes for them. Use a condom and you wouldn't be having a problem, now would you?

    The topic is speculated too much.
     
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    Maybe if America actually educate there kids about sex in school and gave out condoms etc then not so many people would be getting pregnant and needed to have abortions Instead they just toss the subject under the rug. In my opinion America is going down the shitter, and fast. Also just because abortion is illegal in you're country doesn't mean that its not possible to get one. The government should be providing safe and sanitary conditions. Also you have the right to do whatever the fuck you want with you're body. WAKE THE FUCK UP USA.

    Sometimes i just don't understand America and there radical right wing polices on social issues. When you're 15 year old kid gets pregnant her life will be ruined, and she will hate that baby forever. Im just glad i don't live in America where if i get cancer im left to die in my apartment or if my wife gets raped she is forced to have the baby. I think id fucking shoot myself if i lived there.
     
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    She will hate the baby forever what? You don't even know what's going on in america, so sit the fuck back buddy.

    I for one seen a lot of pregnant mothers who are very young, do they hate the baby? No, not at all. It's just getting someone to take care of it is the only problem I hear about. Babies can't ruin your life, even at a young age. If you have a family, they will support you. Don't know where you get your ignorance from, but shape up. Makes you look like another band-wagoner who hears random shit.

    The only thing that can stop a person from ruining their lives, is themselves.
     
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    Maybe hate is the wrong word. She would def resent the baby though. I do know whats going on in America. If you don't know we are paraded with you're media 24/7.
     
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    Your*

    Assuming you believe what you hear, you aren't that smart since you couldn't give a decent argument. Your ignorance makes me question why people bother to debate.
     
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    I mean weren't there times where abortion was illegal and women would go to shady unlicensed "doctors" and get it removed with like a coat hanger or something. If the government tried to straight up ban abortion I'm sure it would fail anyway, and just create a dangerous black market that would cause both mothers and the babies to get killed. All out bans rarely work in governments because there is no middle ground for those who disagree. No one is getting forced to have an abortion with the current laws so shouldn't that make both parties happy? A better approach would be preventing the need for abortions with proper education. I think anti-abortion activists' time an energy would be better spent by helping prevent unwanted pregnancies and maybe giving support to those who get themselves in a situation where an abortion seems like the only option to them.
     
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    One problem. They still live in the 1850's.
     
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