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  1. Unread #1 - Aug 8, 2011 at 6:40 AM
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    Before I begin, I want to make one thing clear.

    The process WILL be made stricter/harder. Do NOT post saying "It's fine as it is."



    Now that I've got that out of the way, here's what's going on. The OMM application process needs to be tougher, and more rigorous. Not only does it need to be, it will be soon. I am however, giving the general public a chance to suggest what they feel would be "fair" in todays market.

    At this time, I'm thinking that the requirements should look a little like this..

    5 >$50
    10 $50-100
    10 100-200
    5 200-300
    3 $300+

    Making for 40 trades in total. I'm however interested in seeing what the rest of you think about the subject. After reading your feedback and discussing this with the current OMM team, I will make my decision. I would like to suggest any/all persons currently working on an OMM app to await release of this new guideline before working on your guide more, as you may end up needing to go back and make some changes to what you've already done.
     
  3. Unread #2 - Aug 8, 2011 at 6:44 AM
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    I feel 5 $500 is too much. Thats just my opinion though. However heaps of people are applying for OMM.

    Mabye 5 $300 would be better?
     
  5. Unread #3 - Aug 8, 2011 at 6:46 AM
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    Great suggestion, this would limit the people of getting OMM fairly too easy with all those RSGP sales.

    Perhaps, but people just shouldn't get this OMM rank, unless they've proved that they can handle those big amounts.
     
  7. Unread #4 - Aug 8, 2011 at 6:46 AM
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    I may be willing to settle in the middle, possibly 10 200-350 then 5 $350+

    Awaiting further input before I make any decisions, however.
     
  9. Unread #5 - Aug 8, 2011 at 6:49 AM
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    Still think they're too low imo, i think they should have to mm atleast 50 trades.

    I would set it up like this.


    10 >$75
    15 $75-150
    15 150-250
    15 250-400
    2 $500+

    but obviously if they did more 250-400 mm's they could compensate for the lack of 150-250 mm's
     
  11. Unread #6 - Aug 8, 2011 at 6:49 AM
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    5 $500.... What... As somebody who has completed 2 MM applications, it was extremely hard to get higher price trades as a normal user when there are plenty of mods at the same time who would do the same trade. Since people percieve mods as more trusted than anybody, they'd get the bigger trades - making it extremely hard for users to reach to reach the bracket. Also, I've only done about 4-5 MMs worth about $500+ in a year of on and off MMing.

    Yes, it may be different per person such as video, since everybody knows him, they're likely to use him, but not everybody is as well known as him. Maybe 1 $500+ trade is needed for the application, but 5 is crazy.
     
  13. Unread #7 - Aug 8, 2011 at 6:51 AM
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    Five $500 trades is somewhat high, but it also proves how trusted some can be. This would make the already vigorous process of OMM even harder, which is good. I'd think it would be better to do the 10 $200-350, then the 5 $350.
     
  15. Unread #8 - Aug 8, 2011 at 6:52 AM
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    I support that your making the OMM application more strict and harder, but I think that most Sythe members wouldn't actually trust a free MM with $500+ which is well above 1 Billion Gold as Most MM's are for RSGP.

    I think it should be:
    5 >$50
    10 $50-100
    10 100-250
    10 200-300
    5 $300+
     
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    This will be taken into consideration, this is why I made this thread.
     
  19. Unread #10 - Aug 8, 2011 at 6:52 AM
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    1-2 $500 trades sounds good.
     
  21. Unread #11 - Aug 8, 2011 at 6:53 AM
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    I'm glad you're doing this, OMMing should be actually a hard rank to obtain through doing hard work. Not doing 20-30 50m trades.

    I think you should have :

    30+ 20m trades
    25+ 50m trades
    15+ 250m trades
    3+ 400$ trades

    They should have plenty experience in all fields of RS MM'ing and should have to post proof.

    They should also have atleast 20 people vouching for them on their application thread.

    Edit: finished.
     
  23. Unread #12 - Aug 8, 2011 at 6:53 AM
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    I think having the high-value trades are necessary but 5 of them seems a bit excessive. There really aren't that many high-value trades that take place on sythe from day-to-day and many of the ones that do happen happen without the use of an mm, it would be hard to even be able to mm that many. 2 is plenty in my opinion, but I would like them to be at least $500 in value
     
  25. Unread #13 - Aug 8, 2011 at 6:53 AM
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    Edited OP in correspondence with the suggestions so far.

    5 >$50
    10 $50-100
    10 100-200
    10 200-350
    5 $350+
     
  27. Unread #14 - Aug 8, 2011 at 6:54 AM
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    This would greatly cut down on the amount of people that could have a chance on becoming an omm.

    I believe 5 $350+ for an omm, are a rarity at best. Genuinly for this sort've trade, either PA is used, or an omm is used. I do believe though, this is needed, since the amount of people applying for an omm is vast.

    With the $500 req, you'd only be seeing a few mms, I just think $500 is too much to ask. Those sort've trades are generally done with trusted players like viou etc. or a highly ranked omm is used. I couldn't say I'd trust an mm with $500...

    Think around $300 would be fair, after all you do want a selection to choose from.

    That's just my input / opinion
     
  29. Unread #15 - Aug 8, 2011 at 7:03 AM
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    The current OMM Application is a joke. Anyways upping it some is good but not too much as that is going to make nobody ever want to go for it...
     
  31. Unread #16 - Aug 8, 2011 at 7:05 AM
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    Curious, are you going to count both sides of the trade as the total value?

    Example:

    Somebody buys 300m at .50C per mil, does that trade count as $300 (as gp is valued at .50c (making the gp value $150) and the paypal value of $150).
     
  33. Unread #17 - Aug 8, 2011 at 7:06 AM
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    5 >$50
    10 $50-100
    10 100-200
    10 200-350
    5 $350+

    I think thats abit to hard especially the

    10 200-350
    5 $350+

    Most people would use a current OMM for these types of trades unless it was a mod or someone with a high amount of vouches like viou,king tjin etc.. offering a free MM service.

    I really think its hard enough as it is now but referring to OP

    i suggest this.

    5 >$50
    10 $50-100
    20 $100-200
    2 $200-350


    Also i dont really see the point in making it harder as most OMM apps are denied if they are not that well trusted on sythe =/

    *sigh* at my app haha
     
  35. Unread #18 - Aug 8, 2011 at 7:16 AM
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    I agree, the current OMM app is rather easy to satisfy in regards to trade prerequisites.

    The 5x $350 seems a bit hard to attain, but, the OMM application shouldn't be easy to complete.

    This seems fine, but, I think it could be debatable whether it becomes $300+, or, $350+

    I personally feel that 3x $350+ trades would be a nice round-off. This would make the MM handle AT LEAST $4,800 worth of goods before even possibly satisfying the prerequisites.
     
  37. Unread #19 - Aug 8, 2011 at 7:18 AM
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    I don't really have anything specific to put in as far as trade numbers, but I would like to touch on runescape account trades. I think accounts should be worth 0gp because really the mm isn't being trusted with the account. The account can always be recovered by the original owner and the account isn't something that the mm can easily liquify if they chose to steal it.

    I think the req's should be bumped up a little bit, though I agree with cosrob and it can be exceedingly difficult to get 500m+ mms with all the mods/gp merchants who are also offering free services.
     
  39. Unread #20 - Aug 8, 2011 at 7:23 AM
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    I agree on this also, but I think trading that much over time would also work fine.
    Like over the course of a month, you do (random number) 50 100m+ trades. - Obviously this wouldn't happen but it's just an example.
    That could count as your 500m+'s. It would just take more trades.

    Now obviously if you're extremely trusted like video was as a free MM these types of MM trades would be fairly easy. He got OMM and he's extremely trusted, as it SHOULD be.

    So what I say to people who can't get a nice amount of 100+ MM trades is, make your name more known, do more trades. It should eventually fall into your lap.
     
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