No such thing as evolution

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  1. Unread #101 - Jan 10, 2008 at 12:44 AM
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    No such thing as evolution

    I had a look, and verified it. It's safe to read.

    Oh, go run a Google search for the pictures of the fossil.

    Our small horses today are just that - small horses. The ancestors of horses, by contrast, were a totally different species, due to different foot structure, anatomical differences, etc.
     
  3. Unread #102 - Jan 11, 2008 at 12:17 AM
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    No such thing as evolution

    from what I found on wikipedia about the Hyracotherium

    to my reading, I am assuming that there has been only one fossil found, as it only mentions one. A tooth of another was found, and it must of been considered similar, so they concluded that the creature was related. What I seem to believe of this, as that since only one fossil was found, couldn't this fossil just be a deformed miniture hourse? since the only differences are the teeth are worn, which could of happened from eating too much, and grinding the enamal away, or a lack of calcium, causing the teeth not to grow properly? the hooves of the Hyracotherium could also be a simple deformity.
     
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    No such thing as evolution

    I don't know. For the species to be definitely established, I would hazard a guess at probably more than 10.
     
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    No such thing as evolution

    looking upon the Florida Museum of Natural history, there is only one picture, and it doesn't say of any other discoveries, accept the teeth, that are proclaimed related.

    and I changed my post above
     
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    No such thing as evolution

    I had a quick look, and I can't find too much about the numbers of fossils found. I saw that it was discovered in the 1870's, though, leaving plenty of time for others to be discovered.
     
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    No such thing as evolution

    Yes, but because other might not of been discovered, you should consider that facts, that this could be nothing more then a deformed horse at birth.
     
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    No such thing as evolution

    On the off chance that no others were discovered, I will consider the rare possibility that 55 million years ago, there was a horse that looked exactly like modern ones, and happened to have a mutant child that had perfectly serviceable mutations.
     
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    No such thing as evolution

    well I don't believe that either I'm just looking at the possibilites, since the this little horse, would be about the size of a pony after birth wouldn't it? it may have died right after birth, with these deformities, Whats the possibility of these animals 55 million years ago, and only one been fossilized, and found today? shouldn't there be others?
     
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    No such thing as evolution

    It was actually the size of a terrier.

    But yes, there should be many more. I just don't know of any since I started looking for them just tonight.
     
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    No such thing as evolution

    I still don't know much about the theory of evolution, but this thought has always crossed my mind.

    If evolution is true, why are there still other species on the earth. If everything was to evolve from sing cells, and continue evolving, wouldn't it make sense of everything to evovle the same way? you can't adapt for life better, by becoming different creatures, which hunt and prey on one another, all coming from the same ancestors.


    The other thing I can't understand is why it is possible to still have things like sponges, aren't they considered to be 500 million years old or something like this? something so old, would of continued to evolve wouldn't it? or why would one of the first life forms, still survive, when things that evolve off of it die off.


    Why don't other creatures besides humans have a close form of comparable intelligence, a language that is able to be understood, or comprehended, no other forms of really intilligent communicable life.


    The last thing I dont understand is why there is no true evidence of evolution? so undenyable proof that its real. Its taught as fact in public school where I come from, but to me it seems far from fact, and is still a theory. With all the animals that have evolved and passed, why don't we have undenyable evidence, the earth has had, what is it now like 4 billion years or something like that?






    also shredder your video in your siggy, I consider part of it inaccurate. I don't have time to watch all of it, I skipped around a bit, but with their philosophy they consider Jesus Christ to be born on December 25th Which he wasn't.
     
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    No such thing as evolution

    Well, evolution is not a conscious force trying to make all animals better. All it is is survival of the fittest, and natural selection.

    Well, survival of the fittest means that those who are fit to survive in their environments will survive. The sponge is a very successful animal/plant - there's no need for it to evolve.

    We don't know. Perhaps the answer lies in the luck of humans, perhaps other intelligent species did exist, but were able to produce nothing, etc.

    First, we've only known about evolution for around 150 years. Not too much macro-evolution happens in that time.

    Second, micro-evolution does occur. Look at drug-resistant bacteria, look at moths that cling to bark, look at dogs, etc.

    Third, there is undeniable evidence. The fossil record, the tendency of less-evolved animals to be closer to the source of where they developed, the genetic similarities, the anatomical similarities!
     
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    No such thing as evolution

    What was the need of evolving past a single cell? didn't they survive fine, they had no preditors



    I myself to beleive in micro evolution, but nothing so absurd as an animal evolving so much as changing into another species, I believe, and know that change is happening all around us. Again I will state my reason, for not being Athiest is that believe that everything around us devolped from nothing to what it is today, Is completely Impossible for me to comprehend. This includes the theory of evolution, I have nothing against it, but I cannot accept it myself.

    Shredder, can I ask how old you are?
     
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    No such thing as evolution

    They did survive just fine, but some were able to grow, and probably eat, or out-eat, the others. Those that didn't evolve, died.

    Something being beyond your comprehension is no reason to doubt it. When did humans have to deal with millions and billions of years? That's just not a number we deal with on a day-to-day basis.

    Remember, though, this is all taking place over tens and hundreds of millions of years! A thousand sets of a thousand years is in each million year, and every single individual of the species has the opportunity for change!
     
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    No such thing as evolution

    How could a bombardier beetle evolve?

    the hydrogen peroxide and hydroquinone would explode on contact the beetle adds an inhibitor to keep this from happening. the beetle squirts the anti-inhibitor when being attacked, to create the reaction
     
  29. Unread #115 - Jan 11, 2008 at 1:48 AM
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    No such thing as evolution

    You would think that its firing system is irreducibly complex; however, you would be mistaken.

    www.talkorigins.org. You should really read some of the things that they have on that site. It's truly fascinating.
     
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    No such thing as evolution

    I dont understand how we turned into us from fish. Order can not come out of chaos (no big bang)
     
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    No such thing as evolution

    You demonstrate a flawed understanding of the second law of thermodynamics. It applies only to a closed system, which the Earth is not (sunlight pouring in, geothermal vents, etc.).

    Have you tried to keep magnets apart? It's hard, right? They naturally go into a certain state. That's what happened with the Big Bang. Once things had cooled a bit, atoms could form, and thus, molecules of hydrogen. These naturally drifted together to form stars, which fused together the heavier elements. Their explosions seeded the universe with debris, which naturally began to clump together in its own right.
     
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    No such thing as evolution

    So out of nothing. Came little molecules. Which then managed to get brains and give birth Nd all that. How can you believe that?
     
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    No such thing as evolution

    That is not in the least what evolution is.

    I'm not going to walk you through every single step of the theory, so go to www.talkorigins.org, and educate yourself.
     
  39. Unread #120 - Jan 11, 2008 at 8:42 AM
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    No such thing as evolution

    Ok people learn what Naturual Selection is!

    Definition here :

    Natural selection is the process by which favorable traits that are heritable become more common in successive generations of a population of reproducing organisms, and unfavorable traits that are heritable become less common. Natural selection acts on the phenotype, or the observable characteristics of an organism, such that individuals with favorable phenotypes are more likely to survive and reproduce than those with less favorable phenotypes. If these phenotypes have a genetic basis, then the genotype associated with the favorable phenotype will increase in frequency in the next generation. Over time, this process can result in adaptations that specialize organisms for particular ecological niches and may eventually result in the emergence of new species.


    as species go on, some members of the species gain different traits, if they are not helpful to the organism then they organism wont survive. If it is helpful it will end up passing the trait on.
     
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