No such thing as evolution

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  1. Unread #1 - Nov 8, 2007 at 5:13 PM
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    No such thing as evolution

    We must have bin created, explained bellow...

    The Second Law of Thermodynamics, which is accepted as one of the basic laws of physics and one of the most important, holds that under normal conditions all systems left on their own will tend to become disordered, dispersed, and corrupted in direct relation to the amount of time that passes. Everything living or non-living wears out, deteriorates, decays, disintegrates, and is destroyed. This is the absolute end that all beings will face one way or another and according to this law, this unavoidable process has no return. This is something that all of us have observed. For example, if you take a car to a desert and leave it there, you would hardly expect to find it in a better condition when you come back years later. On the contrary, you would see that its tires had gone flat, its windows had been broken, its chassis had rusted, and its motor had decayed. The same inevitable process holds true and even more quickly for living things. The Second Law of Thermodynamics is the means by which this simple natural process is defined with physical, mathematic and biologic equations and calculations.

    Evolutionary theory is an assertion that is advanced by fully ignoring this basic and universally true law of physics. The theory offered by evolution totally contradicts this natural law. The theory of evolution sais that disordered, dispersed, and lifeless atoms and molecules spontaneously came together in time in a certain order and plan to form extremely complex molecules such as proteins, DNA, and RNA after which they gradually brought about millions of different living species with even more complexed structures, through genetic changing’s! According to the evolutionary theory, this supposed process that yields a more planned, more ordered, more complex and more organized structure at each stage has formed all by itself under natural conditions. The Laws of entropy makes it clear that this so called natural process utterly contradicts the laws of physics, also meaning that nor can the Big Bang theory be true without some one having started the major explosion. And also meaning that life on earth started on its gurney as we know much earlier than the human evolution, but more importantly meaning that some group of monkeys having slowly turned into humans is impossible, or for that sake, animals being naturally genetically changed, and then ended up as new species is impossible!!!

    Let us for one second look at this theory as if it is true. The theory also claims that the standing up process of which the monkeys supposedly went through happened through generations and changed their genes and the DNA. But truth and fact is that if one monkey learns how to work it has no impact on whether the next generation will walk or not. If you were a potentially stupid guy who have studied your way through many years of learning and eventually turned really smart, your children would still be potentially stupid! Meaning that what you learn during your life is not a part of your genes meaning that your children will have no good of it in anyway, also meaning that monkeys having learned to walk through their genes really can’t be true, IF the evolutional theory of no god existing was supposedly true.
    If you’re a good runner it will not make your children a good runner! If you’re a good football player it will not make your children a good football player! If you’re an extreme bodybuilder with muscles all over your body, your child will not be born with any bigger muscles!

    Genetics cannot be changed without some one deliberately doing it! It is impossible to change your genetics through your actions and doings, nor can the environment of which you live in change your genes!


    Keep it clean and try not talk much about gods existence...


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  3. Unread #2 - Nov 8, 2007 at 5:38 PM
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    No such thing as evolution

    viper, how come in <10,000 years, we have seen no evolution in humans?

    advances in technology yes, but no evolution..
     
  5. Unread #3 - Nov 8, 2007 at 5:40 PM
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    No such thing as evolution

    The second law of thermodynamics only applies to a closed system, which the Earth is not. The sun is continually pouring in energy.

    You demonstrate a flawed understanding of Darwinian evolution. The concept you describe is Lamarckian evolution, which is incorrect.

    In Darwinian evolution, individuals in an environment have differing traits. Those with the traits best suited to their environment survive.

    For example: A lion who is born as a naturally fast runner is much more likely to survive and pass on its offspring than a naturally slow lion.

    Wrong.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutation

    Why would it happen?

    First, it happens in leaps and bounds, when the environment changes. Second, 10,000 years in a stable environment is not that much time to allow for change.

    Note: I am BRILLIANTLY versed in this topic! If you post here you bloody better know your stuff, or I'll have a fucking seizure.
     
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    No such thing as evolution

    enviroment only affects evolution with very drastic changes, where people have a need to survive.

    there hasnt been that big of a change...if what people are saying about planet X is true, than that would be a significant enough change if i understand what you're saying right.


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  9. Unread #5 - Nov 8, 2007 at 6:05 PM
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    No such thing as evolution

    Yes, there hasn't been that big of a change since 10,000 years ago, and also, current medical science is preserving those who would have been eliminated by natural selection, so there is no reason that the human race would continue to evolve.
     
  11. Unread #6 - Nov 8, 2007 at 6:23 PM
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    No such thing as evolution

    Ok... Here we go....
    A. We have, standing upright is an evolutionary trait.
    B. It takes far longer than just 10,000 years. Extinction happens because a species can't evolve fast enough to survive. Evolution takes TIME, and a very large quantity of it.
    C. We haven't NEEDED to evolve since we started walking/standing upright BECAUSE of technological advances.... Technology has given us no need for evolution as we can CREATE anything that we may need to survive. Hell, we can genetically grow food... And that's exactly why there has been no need for any evolutionary changes. Technology.

    Also, if there is no evolution, here's just one of many, many examples...
    Why the hell do we have Alligators AND Crocodiles?
    I'll tell you why, because they live in different regions... At one point in time, they weren't spread across the world, and they all lived together. There was no Alligator AND Crocodile, there was only one of those. But as they started migrating away from each other over a very, very long period of time (ICE AGE) they needed to adapt and change to live in their new environments.

    Thank you, and educate yourselves, please. :)
     
  13. Unread #7 - Nov 8, 2007 at 6:41 PM
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    No such thing as evolution

    Whether millions of years of genetic mutation, or thousands of years of divine genetic changes.... something happened. Meh, I'm becoming disinterested.
     
  15. Unread #8 - Nov 8, 2007 at 6:47 PM
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    No such thing as evolution

    thats some good stuff dude, im a christian for one so i dont beleive in evelution anyweays but ill copy and paste it thanks (lol its bs, but if u few insist that ur apes who am i to stop you?)
     
  17. Unread #9 - Nov 8, 2007 at 7:13 PM
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    No such thing as evolution

    If we are not evolving then why are wisdom teeth starting to be much less common in children?
    Why in about 5,000 years will we not have a tail bone anymore?
    What about skin pigmentation? At about 100,000 B.C. (dawn of homo-sapiens) we all technically lived in Africa (the cradle of life). However when humans started migrating their skin started adpating to the climate they were in. Darker skin adheres to hotter climates and lighter skin adheres to colder climates.
    Evolution is a process that takes thousands if not hundreds of thousands of years to complete.
    Adaption is linked in evolution, get over yourself.

    Also you don't have to be atheist to believe in evolution, you have to have an I.Q. of above 50.
    Science and religion are tied with eachother, if you seperate them you make yourself look like some sort of religious zealot.
     
  19. Unread #10 - Nov 8, 2007 at 7:16 PM
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    No such thing as evolution

    I never said I was an ape... This is where Christians always get it wrong, no offense.
    I do believe that from one point in time, long lone ago that as a species, we do share ancestry with a type of simian. Which one, I have no clue. But why is it, do you think, that we as humans, grow body hair? It serves no purpose... We don't need it to keep us warm, we have the technology to be able to make clothes, and heat... It is merely an evolutionary trait that hasn't left us yet, as evolution takes far too long compared to the amount of time we've had the technology to be able to keep ourselves warm.

    EDIT : There is some body hair, however, that does serve a purpose... Eyebrows... Catches sweat so it doesn't roll into your eyeballs. Other than that... Arm hair... Leg hair... No purpose whatsoever. Pre homo-erectus, it was there (and everywhere else) to keep us warm. We don't need it anymore as we can maintain our own heat through technology, this is why we're not covered in hair from head to toe like cave people.
     
  21. Unread #11 - Nov 8, 2007 at 7:27 PM
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    No such thing as evolution

    Christianity and evolution are not incompatible.

    If you insist that evolution is false, then I have a link for you.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-deception

    They serve no function in today's society, so they're being diluted out of the gene pool, basically.

    I would say that religion has nothing to do with science, at all.
     
  23. Unread #12 - Nov 8, 2007 at 7:43 PM
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    No such thing as evolution

    Thank you all who have rational, valid, and intelligent points.
    You are what makes me not want to give up hope in humanity lol.
     
  25. Unread #13 - Nov 8, 2007 at 9:27 PM
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    No such thing as evolution

    First of all, humans have evolved and adapted to their climate in the past. For example, eskimo people with thicker eyelids to keep their eyes from freezing. Second, 10,000 years is a fairly short amount of time for evolution to take place in any dramatic form. And most importantly, we as humans value all life and support the weaker of our race. This keeps them in our gene pool and stunts the growth of our very evolution.
     
  27. Unread #14 - Nov 8, 2007 at 9:29 PM
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    No such thing as evolution

    The fact that its called "The Evolution THEORY" is because there are ways to disprove it yet there are still some things in the theory that are somewhat true yet misunderstood. There is not a way to completely deny creationism it is in terms a theory just the same(A TRUE ONE ;))
    There is a difference between adapting and evolution, yes of course there will be some changes in things for the simple fact of the environment. This does not mean that our complete structure will change along with our genes and DNA. If all of this were true where are the missing links? Why if evolution takes a looooooooong time is there no in between stages of this?
    Thermal dynamics is true and does disprove to a 90% certainty that it is in fact fake. Now you try to disprove Creationism isn't easy for the fact that an all powerful being could bypass these laws with ease.

    In a way they are.....
    O wait a contradiction?
    But yes it does have stuff to do with science. Of course there is science in it if a god created this he must have put these laws here and all of that so it does in that way. Also in the since of way he just proved that in the second law of thermal dynamics it states it. Which is science in my eyes leading me to believe that we couldn't have came from any sort of dust or chemical compounds linking over time thus creating basic life....
     
  29. Unread #15 - Nov 8, 2007 at 9:44 PM
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    No such thing as evolution

    First, the word "theory" is used differently in science. In the publics mind, it's little more than a hypothesis. To the eye of science, it is an amalgamation of facts, predictions, and explanations. For example, science has designated the terms "atomic theory", "theory of relativity", etc.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self_deception

    First, fossilization is an immensely difficult process to see through to the end. Second, there ARE missing links. You should do a bit of research.

    If you had read my post, you would have realized that the Second Law of Thermodynamics only applies to a closed system, which the Earth is not. There are massive amounts of energy available from the sun.

    Which is part of the reason I laugh at it.
     
  31. Unread #16 - Nov 8, 2007 at 9:48 PM
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    No such thing as evolution

    If only you could talk to the Christian who asked me why we don't see apes popping into humans.

    I am slightly autistic yet everything you said makes perfect sense to me!

    Thank evolution for intelligence. If only the creator of the thread and others could comprehend this.
     
  33. Unread #17 - Nov 8, 2007 at 10:22 PM
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    No such thing as evolution

    Here I will put some random facts that prove its not true and they will just be here because its easier then wasting my time telling a person who is full of self-deception.
    Like the law of thermal dynamics states after time it would be giving off less and less energy then before.

    Take a look here full of information that all leads to Creationism over evolution.
    http://www.remnantofgod.org/creation.htm
    Too tired to sift through it all and then use it in my own sense so read here and try to do some "Disproving"

    Off to bed prove you wrong in the morning ;)
     
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    No such thing as evolution

    this is all based on your religion in beliefs. i believe yes evolution is real, cause where is the proof we were "created" no one knows what happened over 1M years ago.
     
  37. Unread #19 - Nov 8, 2007 at 10:46 PM
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    No such thing as evolution

    Do you not understand the concept of the sun?

    "Here, have a shitload of misconstrued information that supports my case!"

    Very well, I'll take a look.



    Who ever said our brain can hold three million years world of information?

    Might I add, there are people who have lived past 120.



    They're refusing to show them because it offends certain religious people. I don't see how that's proof that evolution is flawed.

    Note: About the 47 inch femur, how do we know that it's human, or even real?



    Yet fossilized remains of meat have been found in their stomachs.

    Tyrannosaurus Rex was a scavenger, you know.



    A tooth? Cholorophyll in ONE tooth is proof that ALL Tyrannosaurs were vegetarians?

    Of course the fossil record isn't complete in any one place, but if you have segment BCDEFGHIJ in one place, and DEFGHIJKL in another, the similarities show that they are the same.

    Funny, because the research I've done indicates that it waxes and wanes on the scale of HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF YEARS. Can they even provide a source?

    Yes, a giant flood is a common mythological theme.

    Flawed logic. Populations usually follow a curve, you know, and do not always increase exponentially.

    Jesus, I can't go on. Next time, get your own damn arguments instead of just throwing links at me, and stop dragging up pseudoscience articles that have been completely debunked.
     
  39. Unread #20 - Nov 8, 2007 at 10:58 PM
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    No such thing as evolution

    Shredder, I think I love you.
    Not in a gay fashion, purely platonic. :D
    We should talk sometime.

    And also, just for laughs and giggles to get the edge off of hostility, everyone reading this, watch these two videos about the subject... :

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zwbhAXe5yk

    AND!!!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9ybq7k8FSs

    ^^^^^^, I thank you, I thank you. :D
    But seriously, watch Ray Comforts actual videos about 'proof god exists', they're hilarious because the guy is a total douche bag and uses analogies that make no sense, whatsoever.
     
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