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  1. woahnaynay

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    Allowing people to discuss suggestions before closing

    I think it is ridiculous when some people make a post with a suggestion only to have it seen by 1 mod and then closed immediatley.

    Example, Pen of course, closed this thread almost instantly without letting any other authority figure even give a reasoning or suggestion to the post.

    http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?p=6941879#post6941879

    I believed this to be a forum where people were able to speak and discuss freely. Not make a suggestion just so that a single person believes their opinion is the all mighty decision. This should be discussed because people have valid points. And I'm sure even Pen isn't ignorant enough to think his viewpoint alone is enough for this entire forum. But if this gets closed by an angry mod I guess I'll be proven otherwise.

    After all, this is an innocent suggestion.

    EDIT: Not only did Pen only allow his opinion, he closed the thread in an hour and a half. It's like communists trying to kill the citizens for questioning authority.
     
  2. RossDuggan

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    Hes an admin he can change the rules if he wants. And he didn't want to.

    So he closed...
     
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    Pen is an administrator and what he says goes. While everyone agrees with you that a valid suggestion should be discussed before it's randomly closed for no reason, that was not a valid suggestion.

    A majority of the reasons suggestions are closed is because they've been discussed before and its been agreed upon that they will not happen, or they're against the do not suggest list.

    In the case of lifting the one month to dispute rule, it has been discussed time and time again and people have been given many reasons why it will stay in place.

    And no, it's not like communism, how do you get that from him just putting his foot down in the suggestion? I think you're thinking too much of it.
     
  4. woahnaynay

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    So the members of the forum don't get to state their opinion whatsoever? He is admin of the site, meaning not only does he mod, but makes sure the users enjoy the site as well. His position comes with a responsibility. Just because you have absolute power doesn't mean you do what only you want. An admin is supposed to listen to the users and get their feedback. Sometimes the majority will differ from his position, which is why responsible people are supposed to be administrators. Not people who believe their opinion is the only.



    EDIT: It was left open for under two hours. That's enough discussion? 1 person replied in that time not including Pen..... I actually supported the idea but I can't state my opinion since the Fuhrer closed the post
     
  5. Deacon Frost

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    You're missing the point. The discussion has come up before, Pen closed the thread because it would just fill with the same spam as had always been in those threads.

    Despite that, certain suggestions require no input as they're retarded, so yes. And what if I don't enjoy a bunch of people talking about a stupid ass suggestion? Pen is appeasing my niche by locking it and keeping the idiocy down. It's impossible to make everyone happy. He did give a reason in that thread, if you didn't read, he just didn't go into unnecessary details.

    Here's a suggestion for you; chill out ;). It's really not that important. Pen is one of the least corrupt people on here.
     
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    Generally we'll only close suggestions if they're infeasible, cannot be implemented, etc. There are plenty of suggestions made that the staff tend not to take to but allow for further exploration of the suggestion within the thread. Only if a suggestion is, as aforementioned, infeasible and cannot be implemented, as was the case in your exemplified case, will we give a quick answer to a suggestion. There is no point allowing you to waste your time discussing potentialities which will never be actualised: that is a talking shop and is a waste of time.
     
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    What Finn said is correct Whats the point wasteing your time Id rather a mod was honest and closed it before You spent time and effort makeing your point .
     
  8. woahnaynay

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    Allowing people to discuss suggestions before closing

    Except that still leaves the aspect of perception coming into arbitrary enforcement of closing a thread. How is it infeasible to add something to a website written in code... That makes no sense. Things are rewritten in code daily, I think your making a vast exaggeration.
    Also, you completely disregarded one of my points, an Administrator makes the site to host guests. It's not very like a HOST of anything to only take into account the managers opinion and completely disregard the users/customers/tenants opinion.
     
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