My thoughts on "God" and religions.

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My thoughts on "God" and religions.
  1. Unread #1 - May 21, 2010 at 12:41 PM
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    My thoughts on "God" and religions.

    Ok, first of all, I don't believe in god. I believe that physichs are "God".


    I. Why there are religions?

    Humans want to be able to explain everything. In almost every religion God or Gods created this all. If one wonders, what created everything, how did it come, another one can just answer "God made this" without further explanation, because usually god is something beyond our minds, something that's always been there.

    That leads to question, what created God?
    But that is usually not answered.

    Humans need a leader. What's in common with EVERY country in the world? They have a leader. It may be President, King, Prince, or Emperor, but there's one. Anarchy really doesn't work, so even when those types of governments didn't exist, there were Gods. Gods, who set rules for people, and the one who you usually must make sacrifices to. Sacrifices and taxes have one thing in common, when they're given, everyone's happy, and life will go on.

    Then, the revengeful God.
    When a person harms you, or your close ones, you can think "God will punish him later on" that may give hope to you on hard times.

    So, God gives life a MEANING of some sort. Even if it's worshipping something that doesn't exist, it is a meaning.



    II. My proof that god DID NOT create everything

    It is proven, that even in vacuum, there is constant action. There constantly appear particles and their antiparticles, that destroy each other. BUT what if one time there didn't appear an antiparticle.
    Let's say that once an hour there didn't appear antiparticle. Take a pen. Let's say that pen has billion particles. It takes billion hours to create enough particles for a pen.
    When object is big enough, it'll eventually collapse into one very thick spot.
    So it must've taken billions and again billions of years to get enough matter for that to happen, but it did happen. Everything collapsed into one tiny spot, that we may call as a Black Hole. Particles kept on appearing, and Black Hole sucked them all in getting thicker and thicker. After long time, the Hole is so thick, that it exploded. And that's what is called as the Big Bang.

    Multiple billion years later, I am here writing this text.



    Theory is completely written by me, and if I say that something is proven, it is.
    I believe that this actually happened.
     
  3. Unread #2 - May 21, 2010 at 2:48 PM
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    My thoughts on "God" and religions.

    There's a difference between theory and hypothesis. You can't make a statement, or come up with some random ass idea and expect it to be fact. You have provided no real study or evidence to support your hypothesis, and thus this thread goes against what Sythe just listed as not allowed.

    Please take your moronic, ignorant arguments elsewhere.
     
  5. Unread #3 - May 21, 2010 at 3:22 PM
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    My thoughts on "God" and religions.

    This theory is based on REAL facts. Ever read books by Stephen Hawking?
    You should read "Brief history of time". It clearly states that even in vacuum, particles can appear. It also states that when black hole is massive enough, it will eventually release everything out.
    My theory is possible, like many other theories. Find a weak point in it, and I will take this theory out.
     
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    My thoughts on "God" and religions.

    What?
     
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    My thoughts on "God" and religions.

    When taxes are paid, the government uses them to keep up education, libraries, sport areas, you name it.
    So, if taxes are NOT paid, everything would start to break apart.

    That's how the primitive people thought about Gods. if they don't sacrifice to them, Gods will start to punish people, and destroy them.
     
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    My thoughts on "God" and religions.

    That's a perfect dichotomy.

    Both gods and the state have been instilled in society with fear.

    But when you overcome fear, and find reason, you will find that in actuality you need neither.
     
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    My thoughts on "God" and religions.

    Interesting reading you have there.

    Personally, I believe that there is some creator of some sort, something which made everything start happen. Where did the creator come from? I don't know.

    Why I'm saying this, is that there must be something we don't understand, there must be something which is against the "physical laws". Else, the world would never have happened.
     
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    My thoughts on "God" and religions.

    I definantly agree there, there has to be something starting the creation, paricltes come from a source, and i believe this source is God.
     
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    My thoughts on "God" and religions.

    My thoughts exactly god is just an explaintion to everything primative aged humans came up with because as human being we are scared of the unknown.
     
  19. Unread #10 - May 23, 2010 at 11:57 PM
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    My thoughts on "God" and religions.

    You proved that things can't be created in a brief span of time. How did you disprove that god didn't create the universe?
     
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    My thoughts on "God" and religions.

    I proved that there is no need for God to create universe, since particles can appear in vacuum.
     
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    My thoughts on "God" and religions.

    Or, of course, that is the way of god (though I'm not saying I agree with this).
     
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    My thoughts on "God" and religions.

    My views on God are slightly different. I believe that God probably did make the world etc but the concept of religions came from a bunch of people who wanted to divide the world.

    Either way I don't think that praying to God gives you anything extra. If you work hard for something you get it, God isn't going to magically come and sort your problems out. That's life.

    I LOVE YOU GOD
     
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    My thoughts on "God" and religions.

    Have YOU ever read books by Steven Hawking?
    He states that there is a higher possibility that Jesus, the miracle worker, existed than the BIG BANG ever occurring. He stated that there had to be the perfect balance of Gravity and Matter present at the point of explosion for our universe as we know it to ever exist. In practical terms, he explained it to be a similar possibility (hypothetically) to have a 1msq board on one side of the universe, and you to stand on the other side of the universe, not knowing where this board was, taking one shot with a rifle and hitting that board.
    Even if the BIG BANG did occur, the bible does not dispute it.
    7 days weren't 24 hour time periods. For all we know, they were periods of time, or points in evolution.

    Explain to me, the chances of this accidentally occurring this many times;

    [number of living species on earth]=[times of accidental life creation from no life]

    I'm saying that when the BIG BANG occurred, yes it would have taken billions of years for the gases in the atmosphere to be life ready, though, where did this life come from, billions of years after the big bang? It's the same level of absurdity as religion believes. Creation of life from nothing. We religious folk, explain it by Divine Intervention.
    Science has to explain it as an accident. Single-celled organisms accidentally being created from nothing, and leading to form perfectly functioning and self-sustaining creatures, aka. EVERYTHING UP TO THIS POINT IN TIME IS AN ACCIDENT. < That's the belief of science.

    Granted, the Christian Bible seems obscure, but religion does give life meaning and purpose to make the most of life. Without faith, you're blind with no plan in life. To you, you live, you die and the universe would've never known you were here.
    We religious folk are optimists. We live to please.
     
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    My thoughts on "God" and religions.

    Who cares about other people's thoughts on religion. obviously religion is a factor in giving people boundaries and rules . yeah im sure we are born with a set of "morals" to keep us somewhat civilized , but if people didn't fear their god then i think things would be allot different . even Einstein and hawking say that their has to be a god ( to the best of my knowledge , please correct me if im wrong )
     
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    My thoughts on "God" and religions.

    Well...I DO.
    Einstein couldn't know if there's a god or not, he died on 1955.
    I couldn't know if there's a god or not for 100%, but I'm 95% sure that there aren't.
     
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    My thoughts on "God" and religions.

    No, both of those people are in fact Atheists.

    Yet religion claims that there's a being that can create universes that has been around for infinity? What's the difference here? And no, not all scientists agree with the big bang, a lot of them don't try and explain things they can't test. This seems to be a problem with you religious folk, as none of you actually understand what science is.
     
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    My thoughts on "God" and religions.

    Physics was my major. I am completely aware of what science is. I am christian and I can accept the Big Bang as having to have occurred. I choose not to believe that we are here purely by chance. I choose to believe there is a higher being. The bible does not dispute the Big Bang. Get your facts straight.
     
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    My thoughts on "God" and religions.

    Then maybe you should have minored in English so you could comprehend what I wrote and reply with better flow.

    My point being that you claim there has to be a beginning to the universe, yet you say that God is forever and created the universe. You then counter that God is outside of the universe, therefore the rules of the universe don't apply to him. It's a ridiculous claim that sounds like a story a 5 year old would come up with.

    I never said that the Big Bang was feasible, and many reputable scientists disagree with the theory of the Big Bang. However, most of your claim is based off of the same mindless dribble as the next theistic post.
     
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    My thoughts on "God" and religions.

    First of all I'd like to see the text you are referring to.

    Second of all, the chance of us existing is 1. We would not be here to observe anything if the conditions in the universe prohibited life as we know it.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthropic_principle


    I think the bible is fairly explicit that each day was of the kind experienced by the people writing it from their tents in the desert.

    Are you suggesting that life originated once for each individual species?
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiogenesis

    Accident? Abiogenesis is no accident, and it isn't deliberate. It happens, in the same way that a rock falling to the earth is not an accident.

    Does it? What purpose does religion give, other than false hope and 'selfless' acts to earn oneself a place in heaven.

    End on a non-sequitir. Well done.
     
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