Why is a lot of the Chinese stuff being left out?

First of all, I'm not trying to be racist or anything, and hopefully this doesn't break the forum rules or anything, if it does, can a Moderator lock it up or delete this thread, thanks.

Now a days, people are always listening to Japanese or Korean songs, and they aren't Japanese or Korean. Also, some people are obsessed with it, also it's annoying to always hear people talk about Korean drama's while they don't understand the tinniest bit of the language (they probably read subtitles which aren't accurate).

So what happened to the Chinese stuff? I mean Hong Kong and Taiwan have a lot of good movies, dramas, songs, et cetera. But people just pay attention to the Japanese and Korean stuff, while they aren't Japanese or Korean, I sort of find this annoying. I used to be friends with this Caucasian guy, and he said "After High School, I want to go to Tokyo or Seoul", that's just an example, and I also asked him once if he would go to China, Hong Kong or Taiwan, he said something like "No" or "I don't know". Another example is I have another friend that's Philliphino, all he basically listens to is Japanese and Korean songs, and once I was chatting with him on instant messenger, and I asked if he wanted to check out a really good Chinese song, and he didn't and said to me "Nah, I'll stick to listening to Japanese and Korean songs", something along the lines of that. The majority of my school, if it comes to listening to stuff made in Asia, they would probably choose to listen to Japanese or Korean songs, and they would watch Japanese or Korean movies or Dramas instead, in my opinion.

So I'm just wondering, why is the Chinese stuff being ignored and why is the Japanese and Korean stuff being soo popular? Chinese stuff has a lot of history, a lot of good actors and hard workers, good singers and et cetera, but they're being ignored a lot by outside of Hong Kong, Taiwan, and China or around that area.

-LeetNeo.

 

Because it's popular at the moment...?

In much the same way you'd prefer to see a film than watch a Shakespearean play...

 

Angelmax, I can't see the Quote button at the moment.

I kinda figured that out, but why isn't the Chinese stuff popular? I mean if Japanese and Korean stuff is popular, why isn't stuff from Hong Kong, Taiwan or China popular?

-LeetNeo.

 

Kpops develop their singers from an early age
They were usually discovered in their teens, some around 10 or so. They are specially trained throughout their teens to be great at what they do. They have a lot of training and are specially selected. Their bands usually have better quality and songs. On top of that, Korean/Japanese groups usually feature fast songs rather than slow song which Chinese/Taiwanese/HK prefers. These fast songs are more closely related to that of Western culture. The song lyrics often include English. That is why the song is more appealing.
*This is specifically talking about group artist, and not solo artist*

 

Things like Japanese anime and Korean online video games are also quite popular in the western world.

 

chinese fails i don't know anyone in my country listening to it lolz. it's the same as talking dutch to a chinese, he/she won't understand it..

 

well it's like a phase im filo and my hair looks korean :L

it i guess the style they have and/or the things they pump out like

jap = anime /hi tech stuff
korean= wickied hair styles

 

LMF (LazyMuthaFuckas) are a band that does rap and rock songs.

Here's one of their new songs when they got back together in early 2010.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lt8wSKrsCV0

And Jay Chou is one of the famous Taiwanese singers, he was also in the movie Initial D, here's his song called Piao Yi.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Gb805Yjtjg

Also, I believe this song was in Jet Li's Fearless.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqfGsCCer9c

Also Hacken Lee has Cantopop songs, and he's famous in Hong Kong.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cW7pQpD1pys

A lot of the Chinese singers have been singing since they're very young as well, so that doesn't matter how old they start, depends when they're discovered, in my opinion.

Edit: About the English lyrics, most rappers from Hong Kong have no accent, as in they don't have a Chinese sounding accent and have a North American accent, either from United States or Canada. 24 Herbs has no accent when they sing in English, here's two of their songs.

1:33 they start speaking full sentences of English in the song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8-qkrDB2kY

1:00, they also start speaking full sentence English as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvG_8oZr-NM

Yes, they do, but most of those games get boring to me. I've played a lot of them, but they just don't stick to me, they all just get boring pretty quickly, in my opinion. Games like Bad Company 2 stick for a long time for example.

You realize Chinese people have a 5000 year old recorded history (Longest recorded history in the world), they have the biggest population in the world and Mandarin is the most spoken language in the world? So no, I don't think they fail. Also, someone has to know a language to understand it most of the time. Southern Chinese people usually understand Mandarin when some Northerner comes to the South, and sometimes a Northerner will understand Cantonese when a Southerner comes to the North. But Southern Chinese people will usually understand Mandarin, it's mandatory to learn Mandarin in the South and Hong Kong now, same with Singapore and Malaysia I believe, not sure about Singapore and Malaysia, but most people know Mandarin there.

The only Anime's I ever enjoyed was Case Closed, but they stopped dubbing it in English after episode 130. Chinese people have wicked hair styles too, look at Wu Jing from SPL. Here's a link to one of the fight scenes that he's in.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rtoLhLwDAQ

-LeetNeo.

 

But they are usually free, and this is an advantage to many people who may not have the cash to splash on BF bad company 2 or COD MW2, also some of the games are basically clones of others which make it similar in gameplay to them.

 

Yes, it's annoying to have similar gameplay to one game, a lot of the shooters that they make are clones of Counter Strike. Usually the thing that really annoys me is that you have to rent a weapon for a certain amount of time, and most of the games don't allow you to buy it forever, that's really annoying. Sure it's free, but how long will that free game last you, and is it really worth wasting a GB or more bandwidth or hard drive space to play that for a little while? Besides, back then when I played Soldier Front, the servers were horribly laggy, people would use the Sniper and not even directly hit you and still get a kill.

-LeetNeo.

 

Why do you care, seriously? Like half the shit everyone owns, says 'made in China', so its getting a fair go in this world.

You don't see me bitching being all like "why doesn't anyone watch Australian movies? Why doesn't anyone listen to Australian artists? ". Who gives a shit what everyone else does, you are supposed to be living your life for yourself, not for others. If you like chinese stuff, then good for you, if you don't, whats the problem?

In Australia, most people don't like the chinese because they are fucking everywhere, they keep migrating here. They get their own little towns 'china town'. Wheres 'japan towns' or 'america towns' etc? You don't see any 'australia towns' in China. And the chinese are ALWAYS taking up every fucking game at the gaming arcade. I'm talking from an Australian point of view, i have no idea what other countries are like.

I often see cars with this sticker on the back, it speaks for itself of why we don't like chinese (chinese specifically since thats what everyone seems to always see):

 

I see where you're getting at, things are Made in China because it's cheaper, would you want an iPod Touch to cost $200 or would you rather it cost $500 made in the United States and have it cost that much?

I'm sure a lot of people watch Australian movies and listen to Australian artists, but they just don't know it. It's like when I found out the 花儿乐队 or in Pinyin Huār Yuèduì was from Bejing, and not Taiwan.

It's getting really annoying when people always talk about Japanese or Korean stuff, everyone talks about it, and it's really annoying, like when girls are always talking about this Korean band or this Korean drama, or something about this Japanese band or Japanese show et cetera, all the time. I never really hear Chinese bands or movies, shows, dramas from a lot of people.

Chinese people are immigrating everywhere, because they want a better life somewhere else other than Mainland China, Hong Kong or Taiwan, et cetera, they want their kids to grow up and be successful other than working at a factory in China.

Chinatown is actually a very good place to learn about the Chinese Culture, History, and et cetera if they actually have any there. I'm sure there's Australian people living in China, Hong Kong or Taiwan as well.

Are you sure the people at the Arcade are Chinese? Or are you mistaken that they might be some other nationality?

Wow, I can't imagine seeing that sticker on a car, I would imagine a police officer pulling someone over for that though.

Also, there's one famous guy from Australia that's Chinese and Vietnamese, and he's very popular, I believe he's second most subscribed in Australia on YouTube, his name is MyChonny. There's this Vietnamese girl that's very famous and from Australia too, it's CommunityChannel, the girls name is Natalie I believe, I also think she's at number one spot in Australia's most subscribed on YouTube.

-LeetNeo.

 

I think I get where you're coming from. To be honest, I think it's a bandwagon thing.

 

Yes, I think so too. It's like someone discovers this one song, and tells all their friends, and all their friends start listening to it, and their friends spread it on to other friends. It's like a viral video for example.

-LeetNeo.

 

Ye as I have stated above, I am strictly talking about group artists.
I have never heard of LMF(I shall search them up). However, I have heard of tons of other Korean/Japan group such as SNSD, 2pm, Big Bang, Shinee, Kara, or whatever(mostly Korean). They are much better advertised too. I think.

Jay Chou is a great artist, I agree. I have tons of his songs in my album. However, he needs to stop acting loool.

O, by starting early, I mean training together and developing the chemistry from early on. Not having feud and stuff.

 

They all suck
Dude if you dont understand it why listen to it.

 

people favor to go with crowds... if one popular person likes the song and he/she passes it on to someone and so on and so fourth. People just prefer to listen to english over another language based on the soul fact that they have one thing in common to that artist which is language, and anything after that is what they take out of it.

 

It really pisses me off when people do that. I've been learning Japanese for a long ass time and I always encounter those people who only know three words in Japanese (sugoi, baka, etc) and it always make me rage. If they're learning the language, I have no problem with it. But if they're just doing it because it's the "cool thing" right now, I get pissed beyond reason.

 

I have honestly never heard a song by anyone Japanese, Chinese or Korean...

It's what people like...
I listen to rap mainly...
If someone said to me "hey I have a really cool song, it's opera" I would tell them to shut the fudge up. That does not make me racists toward Italians (Italians invented opera i believe)

 

Bang Bang Tang is a Taiwan group that does songs similar to other bands in Asia. They're also known as Lollipop, I believe, the Chinese one, not Korean one.

LMF is a rap core band sort of thing, they're highly respected in Hong Kong in my opinion, when people first heard their songs, people said "Wow, there's swears in the song", but there's a meaning to those swears they said in a interview. Their English name is LazyMuthaFucka's also known as LMF, but their Cantonese translated name is The Great Lazy Hall.

What do you mean by better advertised? I don't see those posters here in Canadia, I mean Canada.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but there's this young Chinese girl, I believe people said she was like 10 years old or something, and she singed for the Bejing Olympics opening, not exactly sure how old she was, I'm just guessing 10 years old.

Yes, that's right, a lot of people don't understand Japanese or Korean, and they still listen to it, that's what I've been trying to say.

It's fine if a Japanese person is listening to Japanese songs and a Korean person is listening to Korean songs, but if a Chinese person listens to Japanese or Korean songs, and they don't understand any of it, then it's pointless to listen to something you don't understand. The worst I do is listen to Mandarin songs, I speak Cantonese. I guess it's ok if someone is Chinese but only speak Cantonese and listen to Mandarin songs, but if you only listen to Mandarin songs and not Cantonese, I think that's like the same thing as listening to Japanese or Korean songs.

Yes, most peoples choice is to learn Japanese. But I see a lot of people learning it because they think it's "cool" as well. I'd be really impressed if some Westerner learns Cantonese and has every single tone correct. Look at this guy, he's a Gwai Lo, or he's Italian American, and he practically has every tone and pronounciation correct in Cantonese.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4Gb-031eRQ

Yes, I believe the Italians created Opera. I believe in Hong Kong, there's a school called "Peking Opera School", and Jackie Chan, Sammo Hung, Yuen Biao and many others went there.

Also, here you go, half English half Cantonese. It's rap/hip hop.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8-qkrDB2kY

-LeetNeo.