20% Chance that reality is a complete simulation, reality is...well just watch.

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20% Chance that reality is a complete simulation, reality is...well just watch.
  1. Unread #1 - Aug 16, 2007 at 7:39 PM
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    20% Chance that reality is a complete simulation, reality is...well just watch.

    Link: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/14/science/14tier.html?ei=5090&en=22bfff4070a81187&ex=1344744000


    Also, an amazing video to watch with this....

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...160&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0


    Enjoy...

    ;)
     
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    20% Chance that reality is a complete simulation, reality is...well just watch.

    And what drugs are they taking? It will take much longer than 50 years of even exponential processing growth until we have a super computer capable of such simulations. Not to mention the memory it'd take...
    I doubt in 50 years we'd even be able to simulate a single entity in a small town, let alone a complete universe full of beings.
    The fact that this concept never occurred to him until he talked to some philosopher just shows his inexperience in this train of thought. This ideas has been around for decades...
    So he apparently has no technological experience to figure any kind of possibility/probability. And he apparently has no scientific experience to recognize subatomic complexities. Because it'd seem to me that the exponential growth of advanced civilizations would would cause much more "logistical problems" than the perpetual virtual simulations.

    I think it's far less likely. And my opinion is better than his.
     
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    20% Chance that reality is a complete simulation, reality is...well just watch.

    I doubt you watched the video.
     
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    20% Chance that reality is a complete simulation, reality is...well just watch.

    I don't know what to say about that... never thought of it that way.
     
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    20% Chance that reality is a complete simulation, reality is...well just watch.

    Lol you got this from digg :p
     
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    20% Chance that reality is a complete simulation, reality is...well just watch.

    Actually, i didn't.
     
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    20% Chance that reality is a complete simulation, reality is...well just watch.

    really?

    Cause i just saw it there like yesterday or the day before

    It's very interesting
     
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    this is crazy.. i think it could be possible but theres no way we can tell :O
     
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    20% Chance that reality is a complete simulation, reality is...well just watch.

    Look, I have taken acid like candy for the last 6 months, and i have personally talked with God.

    This shit is just a bunch of people over thinking a pretty simple thing, God made the monkys and they evolved from there
     
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    20% Chance that reality is a complete simulation, reality is...well just watch.

    tbh, i don't believe it, how can me, with feelings, typing on a computer, with the ability to feel love, to get angry, etc etc be in a hard drive of sorts? i have broken bones, it hurts like a bitch, here is my philosiphy, look at a robot, a really damn advanced ones, it can only be programmed so far, AI only does so much, love is the one true think in theory, that it cannot feel, maybe you've never been in love, idk, i have, and its a strong feeling that a circuit and wires, and RAM etc cannot feel, theoretically, i dont even think its possible, in my opinion of him, he has watched the matrix too many times, but so have i lol, its a good movie :) but for something like that to exist in real life is just too much for a person to comprehend, and what cruel said, there is no way in hell 50 years will bring that much power, the fastest possible speeds right now with super computers cooled by liquid nitrogen are probably 100 processors @ maybe 6 ghz? so a combined total of 600 ghz (i could be way off, shot in the dark) for the theory, that wouldn't be enough for a single cell to function

    also, instead of a philosical standpoint, look at a pure science standpoint:

    we have cells, we have trillions of atoms, your saying all that is programmed into our AI??? there is just no possible way for this to all work

    this also almost goes to saying like what if our universe is just a cell on a giant that is xyz??? why the fuck would we have cars, houses, so many etc's??? if you look at the world, look at how our bodies, how animals work, there is nothing pointless, the only pointless things you may find are things that are not done evolving...

    nuff said, not happening, and if we ever somehow find this out, come find me, and ill eat my own shit
     
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    according to this, the god you talk of, is the exact same "programmer" they're talking about.
     
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    20% Chance that reality is a complete simulation, reality is...well just watch.

    i mentioned god? i didn't think i did, but i don't want to re-read... but here is the difference between god and programmer

    god = we are physicial beings, we have mass (which science has proven)

    programmer = we are data, we are trillions of quadrabytes, we have no mass (which science has proven untrue)

    discuss...
     
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    i dont think its a computer programmer or anything but something way more advanced
     
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    20% Chance that reality is a complete simulation, reality is...well just watch.

    Haha, damn...

    So if I start taking a lot of acid I can talk to god too?
     
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    20% Chance that reality is a complete simulation, reality is...well just watch.

    you can talk to anyone, you just might not get a responce in the way you want :)
     
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    But the programer could have just made it so that it appears we have mass. Just like something in WoW for example, looks real, but it's really just pixels.
     
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    20% Chance that reality is a complete simulation, reality is...well just watch.

    do you think your WoW character has feelings? do you think it thinks that what its doing is real? no, its impossible... i know enough programming to know that, you can't program ANYTHING to think, you can give it ai, hell, look at ALICE, damn good AI, but it can't move, it cant think...

    saying we are, and we have mass, where do we exist in?

    based on your previous statements, its the equivlent of a hard-drive, a computer does not think, it processes, but it doesnt feel

    for the record: it is a very interesting idea and concept, i do see how small pieces of it could be true/happen when our tech = 2000000000x what it is today... but for me sitting on my chair, having feelings, breathing, eating, shitting, etc, i just do not see it possible, nor is there anything more then theoretical evidence that has not even been proved to be possible to the smallest degree whatsoever
     
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    20% Chance that reality is a complete simulation, reality is...well just watch.

    Yeah, but it obviously isn't our intelligence that is making us if this were true. There are possibly billions of universes, who knows what out there.
     
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    20% Chance that reality is a complete simulation, reality is...well just watch.

    do you honestly believe this, or is this just a possible theory?
     
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    20% Chance that reality is a complete simulation, reality is...well just watch.

    This "philosiphor" (spelled incorrectly on perpose) gets his title from his friends on WoW.
     
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