Mishandled Cases in the Names Market

What do you think about a global blacklist for sniped names (requires proof that the name was sniped via confirmation by both parties and screenshots that confirm the posession of the name at the time to prevent name framing)? While this obviously has to be updated by a moderator it doesn't "intervene in a free-flowing market". See it rather as trader protection than market regulation.

 

Nobody will admit to owning a name sniped from another trader unless they're already banned from all the markets (such as Ricky). There is absolutely no protection for the buyers in the market.

Also everyone seems to forget that just because a name is put on a level 3 it doesn't mean it won't get chain-banned for name hoarding or recovered in future. It can also be recovered by customer support ticket to the account it was on before the level 3.

 

Doubting it doesn't necessarily make it true, but if the proof is not sufficient than so be it. Dig for proof and find it. If someone snipes a name with the intent of selling it, the proof will be there, the user(s) just need to find it.

This is just an account blacklist and we already have one for RS accounts. I see no problem with a name blacklist providing sufficient proof was provided to be added to said blacklist (ex: multiple users complaining of recovery, sniping, whatever).

 

Name ownership isn't "permanent". Ownership frequently changes including legitimate transactions of names which might have been once considered "blacklisted", when legitimate sellers go to resell for profits they'll run into false claims and dramatic issues. I personally don't see this one working out.

 

Perhaps rather than a blacklist present it in such a manner that while the names may be safe now, they have a had history of issues. More of a list of names to be extra careful with rather than a blacklist to account for the constant change of ownership among owners.

 

That's true, the name request thread was doing a good job with those warnings for a while - correct me if i'm wrong but i think a recent rule change made it so people weren't able allowed to post "x name was sniped" on there anymore.

 

I think we should at least allow a list of suspicious or blacklisted names for the safety of the buyers, even without evidence - perhaps stickied in spam forum if needed.

I like to feel secure that the name I purchased and got transferred will not be recovered down the road (which is very much more likely in the 500m+ tier of names.

I also want to ask if I can open a similar thread as I believe OP as bias to "shutting down" the names sales here as he is active on PB, when plenty of other suggestions more neutral have been suggested where he is presenting an ironclad suggestion.

But I truly believe that if left as is, name sales may become even more infamous than account sales for scammers (there's a whole myriad of drama now between people in name sales).

In many cases even the reputable name sellers on here deal with the snipers who retrieve the name back, as I have seen multiple names resurface month to month.

 

Don't get me wrong, my opinion is as open minded as the next person. That option was only there because I knew certain people felt that way and I wanted to see just how many people would have been in support of it. Sythe's names market has been a frustrating topic with a mixture of emotions from everyone who has partaken within it. I'd hate to see that section of the site be removed because I don't think it really should be - but at the same time there are reasons for removing it which I would also support.

At the end of the day, we're running into a SYTHE.ORG problem. Like you mentioned, I am actively involved in other community OG name markets, and they don't operate with any issues similar to this... There are countless other sites that deal with similar markets like OG gamertags that run a HIGH risk factor in regard to account security and SNIPING however business there seems to be done more clean and in a less dramatic matter where risks are fairly assumed, buyers take necessary safety precautions, and sellers defend stock from wrong do-ers

 

I agree, I think the "Name Sales" and "Account Sales" that PB combined is fine, as you never advertise selling the name over the account - you include that it is solely the account the name is on.

I think in this case some people in the name market are obsessed and feel some compulsion that they "own" the name and even if they are selling they have no intention of truly letting it go. (Snipe, Recover, then put on an account to be hoarded)

I think there should be a distinction such as "Name Sales" also including transfer, otherwise "Account Sales - Names", would let both parties off without complaints.

I do think it is needed to have a list of Names that were sniped and suspicious as people deserve to at least know what they are buying, of course libel and slander will always be there, but leave it up to the buyer to make his final decision.

 

We had one of those which was managed by @Joshuaag1234 which stated last known ownership, For sale/Nfs, if it was sniped etc. It was removed because people who then came to own those names had to deal with drama because they own a name which was listed as 'sniped' on a sticky.

I mean what is it going to achieve in terms of safety? If you remove the sniped warning then you may as well not have had the warning in the first place, and if you don't a potentially legitimate trader is being penalised for someone else's actions.

You're not understanding the market. The name can be sniped by anyone and that person can then fake a trade and say they bought it legitimately off their friend who snipes. Or they could just pretend to be someone else and sell it off under a different alias outside of the forums.

The whole market is a shitfest where nobody can prove anything unless someone fucks up.