Minors - taxation without representation?

[TJ]

I spend about 350$ biweekly in taxes.

How the hell do you spend $350 in taxes biweekly unless you are earning several k in a week..

 

[Deacon Frost]

I make 800 biweekly, i bring home around 4...

 

[DropKick Murphys]

Don't live then.

Shut up.

Because whenever you drive on roads, tax's pay for it.

So if a slave accepts a meal from his master, does he condone slavery?
I would much much rather pay a company to use its roads than pay taxes for bloated government services, often run at a loss.

Next time you want to have the right to an education, don't go. Tax's help pay for the building.

I go to private school.
Same example as the road one.
To be frank, as a whole, our education system sucks. The government holds a monopoly on schools, and restricts competition.

Every place you go, tax's had part in you either getting there, or being there.

And you think these things wouldn't exist without taxation?

 

[TJ]

Shut up.

say pls

So if a slave accepts a meal from his master, does he condone slavery?
I would much much rather pay a company to use its roads than pay taxes for bloated government services, often run at a loss.

No, he is doing it for his own will, not against it.

And you think these things wouldn't exist without taxation?

Pretty much. You have to pay for the shit somehow, and if you dont have tax's i don't know many people that will throw out money to build a road. You have to be forced to do the shit, in order to have a better life style.

 

[Ownzer]

I spend about 350$ biweekly in taxes.

And there is a thing called paying for what you use? Toll roads? Private schooling? etc.

Private Schooling? GFTO, i hope u really meant public schooling.

Point being, taxes should be removed, services should be paid for, and the union should be demolished. .

with what money? even though our market is prostituted all over the globe, we aren't that hot...

And u say u make about 800 biweekly and bring home 4? WTF do u live in Canada? I seriously doubt u have a 50% tax deduct.

 

[TJ]

Private Schooling? GFTO, i hope u really meant public schooling.

with what money? even though our market is prostituted all over the globe, we aren't that hot...

And u say u make about 800 biweekly and bring home 4? WTF do u live in Canada? I seriously doubt u have a 50% tax deduct.

Lol, i was actually questioning the same thing.

I really dont see how you can have half of your check gone due to tax's

 

[Billyy]

What pisses me off about taxation in this country is that, for example, my dad is working his ass off all the time, to make more than decent money to support me and my family. But a percentage of his money gets taken out of his check to support the lazy fatasses that sit home and collect unemployment or welfare, or disability, when they are perfectly able to get a job, they are just too lazy to. THAT'S what pisses me off about this government's taxation.

 

[TJ]

What pisses me off about taxation in this country is that, for example, my dad is working his ass off all the time, to make more than decent money to support me and my family. But a percentage of his money gets taken out of his check to support the lazy fatasses that sit home and collect unemployment or welfare, or disability, when they are perfectly able to get a job, they are just too lazy to. THAT'S what pisses me off about this government's taxation.

True, this is just like my dad tbh. He claims disability when he really aint.

But yes, that is retarded and should be monitored more.

 

[Ownzer]

Same with welfare, my bad dad easily makes 150 a year, yet this year a HUGE portion was taken out. How can a wealthy man who makes 150+ a year barley pay his taxes, when lower class citizens get hundreds back each year.

 

[Deacon Frost]

I didn't say half of my taxes "fuckwit" I said 350$. Half of 800 happens to be 400. I also pay 50 dollars insurance. And yes I DO get taxed all to hell.

Which comes to about 35% taxes.

I live in Indiana, we pay taxes on everything, including .07 cents tax to the dollar on all product except food I think.

Our taxes are high.


And no, I meant private schooling. Public schooling is federally funded. Private schooling is paid for out of pocket. If taxes are removed, higher income can be maintained and school can be paid for.

Which also means a better education because public school education is shit compared to private.

 

[Ownzer]

I make 800 biweekly, i bring home around 4...

Thats exactly what u said "Fuckwit".
And in Texas we pay .08 cents a dollar, and we have one of the best public school systems in America.

And how THE FUCK would less taxes make private school better? The government doesn't touch private schools, hence the name.

 

[TJ]

800-350-450

My fucking bad, a $50 difference.

I live in ohio, and i get like..$10 or around there taken out per 150 i make..which if i made 800 with an average of 10$ taken out of 150 would be 53$

Still not seeing the matter.

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oh and btw, if there is a .07 tax per dollar, and you make 800$ then that would be a subtraction of 56$

please explain.

 

[Ownzer]

800-350-450
oh and btw, if there is a .07 tax per dollar, and you make 800$ then that would be a subtraction of 56$

please explain.

I'm still on your side lol, but there are many other taxes, federal, social secruity, ect. that get taken out of your paycheck, i think thats what he meant.

AND I PAY 150$ A MONTH ON GOD DAMN INSURANCE SO DON'T GO THERE DAMN IT.

 

[TJ]

I'm still on your side lol, but there are many other taxes, federal, social secruity, ect. that get taken out of your paycheck, i think thats what he meant.

AND I PAY 150$ A MONTH ON GOD DAMN INSURANCE SO DON'T GO THERE DAMN IT.

Yes i know, im just saying that he gets a basic charge of 56$ per 800 he makes.

I do know there are several other taxes, which really dont add up to be another 300$

 

[Ownzer]

True, I quit about 3 months ago, but i think for every 300 dollars i made biweekly i only paid around 30 dollars taxes each paycheck.

Unless he lives in Canada where they charge an arm and limb (but they get free health insurance, great public transportation, good schools, lumberjack training, ect.) then i really doubt what he says.

 

[Deacon Frost]

No, it's 27% federal income tax, i think 6% state, and something like 5% SSI.

so it's about 304 deducted... my bad :rolls eyes:. big whopping 46 dollars off which is a generalization.

 

[Brandeis]

I didn't say half of my taxes "fuckwit" I said 350$. Half of 800 happens to be 400. I also pay 50 dollars insurance. And yes I DO get taxed all to hell.

Which comes to about 35% taxes.

I live in Indiana, we pay taxes on everything, including .07 cents tax to the dollar on all product except food I think.

Our taxes are high.


And no, I meant private schooling. Public schooling is federally funded. Private schooling is paid for out of pocket. If taxes are removed, higher income can be maintained and school can be paid for.

Which also means a better education because public school education is shit compared to private.

Lol, you think taxes in Indiana are high? Come to New York...
But on a serious note, our taxes are to the point where it's just ridiculous, we are, I believe, second or third in taxes by state.

Taxes in Indiana aren't a joke either, they are quite high as well. Our tax dollars go towards public schooling, public schooling isn't aided or federally funded, it's paid for by the everyday tax payer. I attend private school, and yes it comes out of our pockets, but still we pay for busing in tax dollars and public schooling.
By the way, good luck with your 35% taxation rate.

 

[Deacon Frost]

Lol, you think taxes in Indiana are high? Come to New York...
But on a serious note, our taxes are to the point where it's just ridiculous, we are, I believe, second or third in taxes by state.

Taxes in Indiana aren't a joke either, they are quite high as well. Our tax dollars go towards public schooling, public schooling isn't aided or federally funded, it's paid for by the everyday tax payer. I attend private school, and yes it comes out of our pockets, but still we pay for busing in tax dollars and public schooling.
By the way, good luck with your 35% taxation rate.

Lol, yeah, well overall point being. Taxes suck. Im saying it'd be better if we got rid of taxes, started toll roads, and paid for school (without having to pay for taxes for other schools, etc)

 

[Brandeis]

Well those who attend private schooling are getting shortened by taxation the most. You see we pay for our schooling and then on the other hand we are also paying for private schooling, such as busing and so forth. Our tax dollars are being put forth for the public schooling system and other amenities.

 

[DropKick Murphys]

say pls

Please

You have to pay for the shit somehow

Thanks captain obvious. Maybe I would pay a toll when I get on the road, or pay a flat year round fee for different roads.

and if you dont have tax's i don't know many people that will throw out money to build a road.

If nobody was building roads, I would certainly go out buy some up. If nobody else owned any, I could charge any prices I wanted. Of course, that would encourage somebody else to build a competing business, lowering prices and raising quality.

You have to be forced to do the shit, in order to have a better life style.

If you don't pay a fee, the owner would economically well advised not to let you on the road.