[denied] Make buying accounts cheap to resale higher against the rules.

Simple.

People on here buy accounts for $30 that are clearly worth $300 then the user buying it for $30 resales it to someone else for $100 and the OO recovers later.

Example^

Most accounts sold by random people who are "new" are instantly or shortly after sale recovered and the end user is scammed then the "new user" can't help and the OO doesn't care because they recovered and made money.

Other situations are when I've had clients sale accounts to other Sythe members who are well known because these well known users know I'm trusted so they'll buy my resale accounts while I'm offline.

Even though my TOS state you cannot resale there's been multiple situations where people have purchased / sold my accounts without my consent using my name as the OO.

Then the other user will use my name as OO to resale.

Personally these users who "join" then buy accounts for cheap and resale to unsuspecting members of the site for lower than market rates to make a quick profit and then remake a sythe account later.

There should be some kind of standard for this for sure.

It's different if lets say @video buys an account from someone he trusts then resales it because he will reimburse or make it right but other users who just joined days/weeks ago have no intention of taking care of their clients after the sale.

Its buy cheap flip high then restart.

Just noticed this, a perfect example. Eternal Mens recovering accounts

Yellow Hat

 

There is definitely a problem in account sales from my perspective but I'm not sure limiting certain people to price restrictions is the right answer. I will no support for now.

 

Account reselling should be forbidden completely, as the reseller has 0% influence on the safety of such an account. If we continue to allow this i'd say make the seller specify who the original owner is since 90% of accounts value is determined on how trusted the OO is.

I'd say those resold accounts from randoms are worth less than 0, because the potential gold loss in terms of recovery is greater than the value of the account, and resellers are basically profiting from their customers losses

 

No support for now. Tracking would be a massive hurdle I agree with Devil.

 

It's not about price restrictions maybe you didn't understand what I meant.

My point is people buy accounts on a "new account" from another "new user" and sell to another "new user"

When this happens it never goes well.

Someones getting fucked and generally its the end user who is buying.

Yellow Hat

 

Tracking would be "impossible" yes but so is did a user "bot a clients account" is impossible to track, the rule is "no reselling accounts you purchased off others" that's the issue at hand.

Yellow Hat

 

So you're wanting to make it so once you purchase an account you're unable to resell it? If I am now understanding you correctly?

 

We must inform people if we outsource, you know this as a provider yes?, however for account sales we can buy and resale, its not something us big providers will do because we wont tarnish our names but new users who dont care about their names will.

Its not the well known providers having the issues its the people who buy and sale on new sythe accounts.

Yellow Hat

 

The issue is "new" users will buy accounts from other "new users" and resale them and both of the OO and new user buying it wont care they resale it to someone else knowing neither of them care about the end user.

The only person getting fucked is the client who wants an account, the sellers dont care because they are going to scamquit and come back as a new user on sythe.

Most big providers have TOS saying "you cannot resale my account without my consent"

The issue is people are buying from other users who aren't trusted then a new user who doesn't understand the market is getting scammed.

After that the OO makes a new account on Sythe and the person who can't help the client recover does the same.

Yellow Hat

 

Well you're a big provider as well so you know some clients dont know the site and thats the main issue.

You know most people just agree to whatever anyway, but if the site removed the option of flash trading it might go better for account sales, because people see "cheap account 2277 for 500m" they are going to buy that instead of a trusted main.

You already see what I mean fam.

YH

 

Btw nice name change hhhh def better than spizz

 

He isn't spizz man, lol

At the end of the day, this is a very similar suggestion to those that Poat & Tigeris have already made.


I didn't see a specific solution in your suggestion, though, more-so just a "hey we should do something about this."

RS account sales are the most risky type of black market transaction, and always will be. I would personally NEVER buy an account from either of the people you listed in that scam report.

What it all ultimately boils down to is that the buyer should partake in proper due diligence to make sure they're safeguarding their assets ($$$$) when purchasing an account. This means verifying who the OO is, buying from someone whom they have vetted and feel is trustworthy, etc. You'd be bottlenecking Sythe by implementing some sort of rule on this, and people would still find a way to scam.

If anything, I support more Sythe endorsed education for newcomers/community in general on taking proper precautions to purchase an account as safely as possible.

PS - If someone agreed to your TOS and is breaking them by reselling the account then just report them.

 

BTW, Sythe rules already require an account seller to notify the buyer if they are not the OO. This is in line with service providers being required to tell the buyer if the work is being outsourced.

 

Yes its a rule but prohibiting it completely would help alot.

 

Prohibiting what, allowing people to sell an account they aren't the OO of?

 

My solution is to prohibit it and its the only option keep return scammers from doing it over and over. As well the people who have nothing to lose buying them and selling.

 

Exactly. OFC 1/100 people selling accounts they bought from others wont be an issue but the other 99 are getting fucked.

 

How would that be policed? It's very easy for someone to say they're the OO of an account when they really aren't.
You also suggested in your first post that there should be exceptions for people like Video. Okay, so who gets the exception and who doesn't? What happens if another Azie comes around?

Similar to other suggestions on this topic - you're heart is in the right place.. but this isn't a practical suggestion in my opinion.



Think about the age old quote, "Sythe is a free market."
We should be shifting the focus towards the question of, "how can we educate buyers and enable them to make smart decisions?"
This way, they're free to spend their money how they please, and Sythe isn't nazi germany.