Logical proof that God exists

With logic comes reason, shredderbeam. is it REASONABLE to yeild to a man who doesn't believe his own argument to be true?

 

I would want to hear why the arguer didn't believe it.

Yet, I never said I didn't believe it.

 

I didn't come in here to argue with you, therefore i don't give a damn about what you had to say

if you believe that god exists, assuming you are defining god as the omniscient, omnipresent, and maybe even omnipotent being that was the origin of life on this planet, then you're not an athiest

 

O, so if he exists then he has to exist and if he doesn't, then he can't. I still disagree. Just because it is not impossible for God to exist and if he doesn't exist, he can't exist, doesn't necessarily mean that he has to exist. You're shooting around in the dark from what I see...


Oh, and resident; just because Shredder is an atheist doesn't make his argument any less valid.

 

its simple -- your thinkong about it too much

 

Right, if I believed that, I would not be an Atheist.

That's not what I'm saying.

All right. There are two possible scenarios: 1). God exists, and 2). God does not exist.

1). God exists. It is therefore not impossible for him to exist. If it was, he obviously wouldn't exist.

2). God does not exist. If he does not, it is impossible for a God to exist.

Since there is nothing impossible about the idea of God, we can rule out #2, which leaves us #1 left.

What is simple? The existence of God? If so, then I can guarantee you that any of the arguments you have are incorrect.

 

are you saying the existince of God is incorrect, or that it being simple is incorrect?


side note- you've been making alot of money of that thing in your siggy =p

 

I'm saying that its being simple is incorrect.

 

This makes NO fucking sense, what-so-ever.

 

thanks for clearing that up, I agree that the existince of God must be very complex, and I would have to say in this lifetime to use, its completely uncomprehendable.

shh.... I want people to think I'm really smart for my age.

What doesnt make sense about it?

 

Skipped everything, i have to say; It seems like a psycological thing where you present a point, but make people think you are giving them a choice in opinion, yet, there is only one topic to this thread when you present it to have 2.

Either that or you were smoking a little too much Mary-J

 

Resident, just shut up and get on topic.
Attempting to prove something and attempting to disprove something should both yield the same result assuming you reach a conclusion.

Holds no ground:
Since it's possible for God not to exist, and since if God does exist, he must exist, God does not exist.

 

the idea is that he's trying to use logic to prove god's existance; i'm taking a totally relevant approach to discrediting it. i don't care whether or not it works, i'm just having fun. isn't that what this forum is meant for, or do you have to tighten your asshole every time you click the link for Something For All?

 

I guess if you look at it that way then God would seem more or less plausible. But then again, if god was real and as omnipotent as religion tells us, then can't he chose not to exist?

 

weren't you done with this topic like 20 minutes ago? also you disragard what I say, but not what someone else says

+5 cents! (He'll get it)

 

i didn't disregard cruel because he wasn't a total dick about it, unlike you.

also, i got a message to come back from someone, so i did. it's called free will. do you have it?

 

I'm showing them what's possible, and what the logical conclusion is.

Or perhaps not. Perhaps people exist that are intelligent, and can think on deep matters without the influence of drugs.

Actually, that argument does not disprove the existence of God.

My argument:

Breaking it down:

There is nothing about the idea of God that is logically impossible.

If God does not exist, his existence is impossible.

If God did not exist, his existence would be impossible. But, since it is not impossible, he must exist.

 

Yes, If you speak of an omnipotent god, then it could chose wether or not to exist, but why would the most powerful thing in the universe choose not to exist.

also, I think hes speaking as a god in general, and not all gods, or god proclaimed things are omnipotent.

yes I have free will do you?

I mean the God that I follow lets me make my own choices, does yours?

 

if he didn't, we wouldn't have hell.

 

oh you could, it just depends on what choices he let you have free will on