Starting Runescape?

Hey,

Having not played for years, I am considering coming back to RS. The last time I played was before EOC. My question is, is it still a game suitable for beginners? Is it less of a grind now?

Thanks.

 

post-eoc is bloody horrible man, It's nothing like the game you left. You're probably better just giving 07 a go like most folks who quit because of or around EoC being put in. For me its just so unplayable and if I wanted to mash buttons and stuff I'd still be playing WoW

 

That's the thing, I'm also looking into restarting WoW and can't decide between the two. What do you suggest?

 

It's more WoW versus WoWscape for me. In terms of what's better, WoW by a country mile for value and game play. RS3 is like a pop-up game now where they try and get you to buy everything and items/rsgp has such little value now (0.35/M)

Considering the new WoW expansion just came out and they've hit 10m players again, it should pick up even further. I unsubbed a few weeks back because I don't agree with paying 40 bucks for an expansion but will get on again during Christmas when it's reduced.

 

But some people must enjoy EOC? I mean, they do have like 50k players playing EOC every evening?

 

Yes it's around that but EOC has just gone downhill, all i use it for now is gold farming, but you make more on 07, i'd go for WOW if i'm honest.

 

I'm a bit discouraged by spending £40 for the expansion and then £10 a month though, RS seems cheaper and I'm hoping I will enjoy it. What I'm mostly interested in though is if it's still a massive grindfest? Can levelling be enjoyable?

Edit: Though having said that I'm also looking for a game where I can be a part of a community. Is there still a community in RS? Is WoW better with guilds?

 

EoC is meh... the whole attitude and community of the game irrevocably shifted when Evolution of Combat & later on Runescape 3 was released. The game was fine as it was back in 2012 but of course Jagex tried to streamline their game and in my opinion failed by default as a result of it being a rushed launch, not properly beta-tested, and just thrown upon the community without so much as a small teaser warning that made it sound so much less invasive than it actually was.

Not everything about EoC is horrible. It does add an interesting dynamic to boss fights and adds a bit more strategy. Revolution mode will automatically fire your basic abilities and then you can use your ultimate abilities when your bar is full enough by pressing the respective button it's assigned to. This is the best option for PvM like Slayer, because it is so much less intensive if you are on Revolution Mode as opposed to Full Manual (you have to press a button for any ability 100 percent of the time). Full Manual is only good for high level + end game content bossing, where you need to be more calculating in the abilities you are using, and when you are using them.

The game is MUCH LESS of a grind. However, in some ways, it is almost too much less of a grind, as 99's are nowhere near as prestigious as they once were, and there are too many people addicted to XP gains instead of just having fun. This makes for a toxic, elitist community, that ultimately makes Runescape 3 feel like a single player game unless by some miracle a part of your friends list is still green (as in players that actually still play+ are online).

Pros of Runescape 3:
Many combat modes now, Legacy gives you the older interface + combat more tailored towards the old way of fighting (but not exactly the same).
Revolution eliminates the button-mashing of Full Manual and makes EoC more tolerable.
Graphics, in some cases, are much better. Gameplay is smoother than OSRS.
The lore of Runescape is still quite good. Quests have lost some of their luster, but the writing for them is still solid. I prefer Runescape's lore to WoW's, personally.

Cons of Runescape 3:
Your friends list will be a ghost town. If they're not all red, the ones still online you won't recognize because of name changes over the years. Finding out who is who may prove impossible.
It feels like a single player game: When areas aren't riddled with bots, they are simply ghost towns 90 percent of the time. Players in Runescape 3 tend to be incredibly anti-social if not completely mute when you try to talk to them.
Elitist, toxic community: 90 percent of the people still on Runescape 3 are not even playing for fun, they are grinding for endless xp gains because they are addicted to it. Venturing onto the Official Forums further illustrates the divide between older players and new...but the one thing they usually have in common is some form of insufferable elitism...hence why the game never progresses.
The feeling of achievement is mostly gone: 99's are empty, fat stacks of money are empty....you basically have to artificially create any feeling of achievement. It's not like years ago when an achievement was actually looked highly upon. Nowadays it's "okay, what's next?"....with the way the community is now.

 

Xp gains are much easier now, eoc is easier if you're actually interested in playing it.

 

Thank you for your detailed response. I have played a bit now, and am actually really enjoying the questing. It does completely feel like a new game, and it doesn't have the nostalgic quality I once adored, but I am finding curiosity and delight in learning the new systems and getting into the lore once more.

I think I am going to have to find a nice, easy going clan to join though, as per your comment and what I have seen, there is a real issue with the community. It seems the higher levels, as I am starting fresh on a new account, really do look down upon anyone who isn't 'there' yet. I guess I'll see how it goes, maybe continue to update this thread as I progress in RS once more.

Thanks.

 

Yeah make an update thread on your account or something man!

 

the game is a lot easier to come back to if you try something before hand to improve ur experience, there are a lot of people making rs3 iron man progress videos from scratch recently, maybe try watching one of them and learning how to play the game, granted you may not want to be an ironman its still worth a watch

 

It's not the same game, weather it's worse or better varies from person to person.

With all the abilities bullshit the game has lost its soul. It has turned in to a medieval habbo hotel.

 

No problem at all, glad I could help you out. If you need any more help with quests or need some GP or something, feel free to PM me.

Going through the quests is a lot of fun, I plan to do that this summer myself. EoC will actually add a nice dynamic to quest bosses again, being unsure of beating a quest boss makes the game more fun again.

You'll eventually find some good members of the community, it's just a little bit harder than before. It seems most people are off doing their own thing. Don't be afraid to at least try to make small talk with people. I always make sure to respond to people if they talk to me, but I don't usually talk first. Not really sure why but that's just the way I play, maybe others do too.

 

I mean, if you do legacy it's the same exact thing as pre-eoc. I personally only use legacy when I do play, I despise EoC. Only time I use EoC is for slayer and I put it on revolution meaning I don't have to mash any buttons, it's all automatic. I'd honestly just give it a go yourself, none of our opinions will tell you how YOU would feel about a game.

 

I Quite enjoy playing 07, never played WOW Though so i couldent compare.

 

You can play in Legacy mode so it feels more like 2010 days which i what i do. U dont have to press bottons and stuff.

 

I've heard though it's very second-tier in comparison to EOC dps?

 

It depends on what you're doing, really. Slayer is much faster with EoC and all you have to do is set it to revolution. You literally don't click anything or mash any buttons, it's automatic. But if you wanna do like Dh, legacy is the way to go. Also there are legacy only worlds if I'm not mistaken so if you live in those worlds nothing is different.

You also have to realize that EoC stands for Evolution of COMBAT. RS isn't all about combat. It's like 25% combat, 75% skilling, or arguably more skilling.

 

^ True i just seem to enjoy it more its just alittle more old school then the rs3