Child support; the father and mother

A guy has sex with a girl, basically a one night stand. They never talk again after that. The girl then finds out a month later that she is pregnant. The father doesn't want anything to do with the child, but the mother keeps the child anyway. Fast forward two years. The child is now two and the bills are getting harder and harder to pay. So she goes after child support to raise the child. Which leads to the debate :

Should the mother get child support? She chose to raise the kid.
The father wants nothing to do with the child, at all. So he is not responsible.
Why is the mother the only one that can decide if she wants the baby? Does the father not have a say? (Legally, right now he don't)

Discuss

 

She should get child support, because she's a single mother and the baby's father is uncaring. As for the father; I don't think he does have a say because he dosn't want anything to do with the child.

 

She chose to keep the baby, so its up to her to raise it. She should know the risks that will be involved.

Why doesn't he have a say? It takes two to make a baby.

 

Maybe they could come to an agreement, the father gives some money a month, but only what he can. What I mean is; theres no set amount that the Father has to pay every month, if he's low on cash one month, he could have the option of only giving a little, but if he's got a bit of cash next month, he could give a bit more, etc.

 

I think by law if you see the baby and the mother asks for child support, you have to pay it.

You don't have to pay it if you're not seeing the baby.

 

The father brought the baby into the world, he can't just ignore it, he should be made to pay.

 

The mother brought it into the world.

What about sperm donators? Should they pay too?

 

It's the fathers penalty for having a one night stand. Sperm donors are different, they did something good by donating, they didn't just have a one night stand.

 

The mom chose to keep the baby. By that alone, it's her fault. She should be the only one responsible for it if the dad doesn't. If you have to ask for child support, then you shouldn't have even had the baby.

EDIT: The girl also had a one night stand too...

 

Maybe she didn't know what she was getting herself into by keeping the baby, if so, she should be helped out until she finds her feet. If I was in her position, I wouldn't have the heart to kill the baby.

Edit:

ohyeahlol.

 

When you say it was "her choice to have the baby," you are assuming that the mother is pro-choice. If she were pro-life, she could only avoid the pregnancy by going against her morals - even to the extent of alienating herself from her family, as the case may be - in order to have the abortion, which is not a fair assumption.

Moreover, even though I am pro-choice, I do not think that a mother should be pressured to kill the fetus simply because the father does not want to be involved, if she'd rather keep it. The man was irresponsible by having the one-night stand in the first place, and therefore, I believe it fair for him to share the responsibility. Even if he "doesn't want" the baby, he cannot undo the action or the result.

 

It's not even a baby until 8 more months.


Til she gets on her feet? They shouldn't even be fuckin anyway. Anything they get is on their own fault. But if she wanted to keep it, it's her damn fault.

Oh right, she'll fuck anyone at anytime, but when it comes down to a baby, she wants to have help with it if the dad says nty? At the first moment of being pregnant, you remove the egg. It's just an egg. So she had the chance, but blew it. I doubt she'll double take to eating some eggs for breakfast.

If the dad wants out, he can have out. Or, the mother could let the whole family take care of the baby. And if their family is so poor, she could put the baby up for adoption. Don't take the risk if you can't take the consequences.

 

If you had children, could you put one of them up for adoption just like that?

Also, the father made the baby, he can't just walk out, he has a responsibility.

 

No, the man should not be obligated to provide for anybodies existence.
Morally, I think he should help take care of the child he helped create.

 

I think the father should help. He decided to take the risk of making a baby, so he's binding himself to a responsibility. Although it would be hard to make the father raise the kid if he doesn't want to.

 

If you see it or not, you can be made to give child support

The mother did, also. He shouldn't have to pay for something he doesn't want, or doesn't see.

Adoption is always an alternative. The father chooses to not have anything to do with the baby, and the mother wants to keep it. It sounds like a giant scheme to me.

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I just don't see why the mother is the only one that gets a voice in this. What make's her so damn special?

 

In my opinion, the father is actually the victim of this all (maybe the kid too), not the mother. The mother decided to keep the baby and to raise it. She should have informed the father about it, talked about how she was going to get money to raise it (any idiot knows that kids are goddamn expensive). It's not the fathers fault she didn't think of the concequences beforehand.

The only thing they had was sex, for pleasure and not to have children. They both accepted this when they decided to share the bed with eachother and ofcourse, you accept the concequences. The mother accepted the fact that she had to raise the child alone.

 

Exactly my point damien.

 

No, it isn't his responsibility. He may have knocked her up but she could have used the morning after pill, or got an abortion. If he has no ties with her he shouldn't fork over money because of that whores decision to keep the baby.

 

If you're pro life and you choose to keep the baby, it should be on you to pay for it. The woman has just as much responsibility to make sure proper birth control is in order.


That, and I disagree with the notion of child support all-together. It's just another form of involuntary (immoral) welfare.