Life has no logical purpose

[Trinity19]

Exactly, you've 'said a lot'. Now show some actual proof behind what your saying. You are being a hypocrite.

Baha, I'm saying tell me what you want me to give evidence for, are you dense?
Give me one topic to start off with and I'll give you all the evidence you want. Get me a Polaroid of god while you figure out which topic.

@Everyone that keeps writing essay long posts
I do not have a problem replying to arguments if they don't take 10 minutes to read. I simply don't care about this topic as much as you do so I will not be wasting anymore time than needed.

Btw if you really don't think the kid that posted the little picture insulted me you have some problems that are to large for me to help you with.

He didn't insult you, he gave a reasoned argument, which you have yet to give a decent response to. He had a point and instead of showing how he was wrong, you claimed he was being rude, and I know why. You can't prove him wrong. Don't respond to this saying "yes I can" Prove how you can otherwise your post will be pointless.

 

[Trinity19]

maybe it was inherently unstable
matter was not condensed to a single particle of almost infinite density for an incredibly long time, as the big bang follow the big crunch. this is what i think anyways


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Crunch

It's possible, however the big crunch always makes my brain hurt, mainly because you have to think that the universe is going a set speed, and how could this set speed slow down for the effect of gravity to take hold unless the outside of which the universe is expanding into is providing even the smallest resistance. But then what could possibly be giving that resistance.

The reason I think that the big crunch's scenario (gravity overtaking the escape velocity) won't work is because, if the universe is still expanding, that means the initial speed was greater than the force of gravity, as it expands that gravitational force will weaken as its still going the same speed.

Unless something does slow it down.

 

[iDung]

Baha, I'm saying tell me what you want me to give evidence for, are you dense?
Give me one topic to start off with and I'll give you all the evidence you want. Get me a Polaroid of god while you figure out which topic.


He didn't insult you, he gave a reasoned argument, which you have yet to give a decent response to. He had a point and instead of showing how he was wrong, you claimed he was being rude, and I know why. You can't prove him wrong. Don't respond to this saying "yes I can" Prove how you can otherwise your post will be pointless.

I really don't enjoy talking with you. You simply don't understand the point I'm trying to make and I will just live with that.

You cannot tell me what insulted me. Only I myself can know what insults me. Don't make stupid statements please -.- They are annoying.

I'm off of this thread now, continue to waste your time talking about a pointless topic.

 

[adverts]

Life is ultimately ruled by choice, EVERYTHING, that has a beginning and an end is choice.

This explains itself.

 

[Trinity19]

I really don't enjoy talking with you. You simply don't understand the point I'm trying to make and I will just live with that.

WHAT POINT? All you're doing is asking me to show evidence and I'm asking to give me a specific topic what to give evidence for, really you can't understand that much?

You cannot tell me what insulted me. Only I myself can know what insults me. Don't make stupid statements please -.- They are annoying.

.....You said if anyone can't see how he insulted you then they have problems, yet you just said now only you can know what insults you........are you retarded?

I'm off of this thread now, continue to waste your time talking about a pointless topic.

And surprisingly you leave with yet another useless post that didn't help your side at all. Oh religion you don't disappoint.

 

[iDung]

WHAT POINT? All you're doing is asking me to show evidence and I'm asking to give me a specific topic what to give evidence for, really you can't understand that much?


.....You said if anyone can't see how he insulted you then they have problems, yet you just said now only you can know what insults you........are you retarded?


And surprisingly you leave with yet another useless post that didn't help your side at all. Oh religion you don't disappoint.

I will stay on this thread to debate you I suppose.

1. Let's start with "religion is just a story". Back that up please.
2. I mistyped. I'm saying that people are able to find anything insulting even if other people don't believe it is insulting. But if something is obviously insulting and a person can't see that it is insulting, they have a problem. If that doesn't make sense I will try to give a clearer explanation.
3. What do you mean by "Oh religion you don't dissapoint"?

 

[Trinity19]

black holes, nuff said

XD
Well then thats another topic Black holes,gravastars,or dark energy stars. Interesting shit.

 

[Trinity19]

I will stay on this thread to debate you I suppose.

1. Let's start with "religion is just a story". Back that up please.
2. I mistyped. I'm saying that people are able to find anything insulting even if other people don't believe it is insulting. But if something is obviously insulting and a person can't see that it is insulting, they have a problem. If that doesn't make sense I will try to give a clearer explanation.
3. What do you mean by "Oh religion you don't dissapoint"?

1. It's a story written in a book, that only supports itself. There is nothing to support it other than itself. Hence my Dr.Seuss analogy. If you have anything else that supports the bible please tell me. (As I said articles only supported by the bible don't work either.)

2. Alright but you still have to realize that if something can be taken as insulting to one person and not insulting to another, then it can also be written as insulting by one person but also be written as it is without being written to insult.

3. I meant you never backed up any of the questions I asked, specifically the Hindu one which I was curious about your response to. Which is common in religious debates, the religious side says its piece and never qualifies the opposing sides questions.

 

[C_Town_Hero]

nothing came from carbon and h20

 

[iDung]

1. It's a story written in a book, that only supports itself. There is nothing to support it other than itself. Hence my Dr.Seuss analogy. If you have anything else that supports the bible please tell me. (As I said articles only supported by the bible don't work either.)

2. Alright but you still have to realize that if something can be taken as insulting to one person and not insulting to another, then it can also be written as insulting by one person but also be written as it is without being written to insult.

3. I meant you never backed up any of the questions I asked, specifically the Hindu one which I was curious about your response to. Which is common in religious debates, the religious side says its piece and never qualifies the opposing sides questions.

1. I don't know what you want me to provide you. The only thing I could provide you are articles created from scientific studies on the Bible. So if you won't accept articles I can't provide any other support. Can you re-state your Dr. Seuss analogy please? I never even read it.

2. I think if you ask him, he will tell you he had intentions of insulting me. It is quite obvious in my opinion. That is no big deal though, I would rather talk to someone like you who keeps there insults at a minimal and usually insults in retaliation.

3. The religion you choose affects the lifestyle you choose. I have not researched Hinduism extensively but from what I have read the lifestyle I would live if I were Hindu is not appealing to me.

I feel like Christianity is much more free and the Christian way of life is a way of life I would live closely to even if I were an atheist.

 

[Trinity19]

Don't know how much good this is doing by answering because of your ban =/ but I might as well.

1. I don't know what you want me to provide you. The only thing I could provide you are articles created from scientific studies on the Bible. So if you won't accept articles I can't provide any other support. Can you re-state your Dr. Seuss analogy please? I never even read it.

Dr.Seuss analogy was this:

All religion has is the bible, and you cannot prove the bible with bible. It's the same as if I said the cat in the hat was real because of the Dr.Seuss book, he exists in the book and even though I can't see him,hear him,or touch him he must be real because theres a book written about him.

3. The religion you choose affects the lifestyle you choose. I have not researched Hinduism extensively but from what I have read the lifestyle I would live if I were Hindu is not appealing to me.

I didn't ask if the reason you don't choose to be Hindu is because of it's lifestyle. I asked why don't you believe in their beliefs just in case their religion ideals are correct?
I mean if I have everything to lose and nothing to gain by being an atheist and not christian. Then it's the same with you being christian and not hindu. It makes no sense.

 

[ShockWaveee]

2. I think if you ask him, he will tell you he had intentions of insulting me. It is quite obvious in my opinion. That is no big deal though, I would rather talk to someone like you who keeps there insults at a minimal and usually insults in retaliation.

/facepalm

Even though you are banned, I know you will either just ban evade or if the ban really is temporary you will come back and see this so I feel it necessary to clear this up for you. You are literally shoving your opinion down our throats and telling us we are going to hell. That is an insult to anyone who does not share your opinion. If you want to come on here and have an intelligent debate, you have to be able to look at both sides of the story, and you are obviously not capable of that. I did not insult you, I pointed out your TERRIBLE logic that is you threatening non-Christians with Christian punishments. Also that you were mad enough about my counterargument to tell me you'd beat me up IRL... and honestly, that's just sad. If your way of winning an argument is to use your fists, maybe YOU'RE the one with problems.

Just because your mind is unable to grasp some of the concepts that we've explained to you does not mean we are insulting you. Also, I'd like to point out that the Trinity guy was not saying you're not allowed to use articles of any kind. He was merely saying that you can't back up the Bible with the Bible. It does not work that way. It goes back to that image I posted a while back:

You also never commented on how you feel about being raised in a different culture. How can you say that, for example, Islam is incorrect solely because you were not born into it like you were Christianity? If the roles were reversed, you'd be saying the exact same things about Islam and I'm sure that even you can see that..

 

I don't believe that our lives have a purpose, all we manage to do is create problems for the next generation.

 

[Conceta]

we are all gods children. we are here for his purpose.

Non-religious forum + no damn evidence

 

[gtdarkpunisher]

Guys, the debate seems to have gotten no where, especially these last two days.

All this thread has been is been trying to debate against someone whose stuck on their opinion and won't accept simple logic and reasoning proving their position wrong. One guys keeps asking for evidence when he himself has none. Like I said, its gone no where.

 

[Trinity19]

Guys, the debate seems to have gotten no where, especially these last two days.

All this thread has been is been trying to debate against someone whose stuck on their opinion and won't accept simple logic and reasoning proving their position wrong. One guys keeps asking for evidence when he himself has none. Like I said, its gone no where.

It's fun though, and we are getting along, we've moved onto different aspects of the topic which is improvement.

 

[sith kid]

I think the reason people can't let go of religion is because they're scared. Without religion they can't attribute meaning to life, and that is something they aren't willing to accept, so they desperately cling onto thin air.

We should all think out of the box. Focus on research and perhaps in a few thousand years we will understand how the universe functions. And then our chains will be broken (excuse the corny metaphor <--- double corniness ).

 

[givonconner1]

the feeling of life is the pourpose of having one. If you believe in god, you would know that God made life for us to experience what it was like to have emotions, and love one another. To know what it was like to have imperfections, and live without everything being handed out. the purpose of life is to experience it in its own world. LIFE

 

[Adrith]

Purpose is a human concept, so this debate is completely illogical. 'Life' is just what happens, it is not a human concept. It is a biological concept.

Purpose is a human concept. You cannot compare the two.

This is typical shit that people try to discuss to make them look philosophical. Actually it's just stupid and 'purpose' has no relevance to 'life'.

 

[Create-Sun]

Your purpose or lack there of is left up to each individual.

Life present meaning when you seek meaning.

If you believe your life has or does not have a purpose you are correct either way.

You life is a direct result of what you believe you are worth.