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  1. Unread #1 - Nov 21, 2021 at 5:36 AM
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    [Denied] Lets remove the advertisement of discord servers on sythe

    While at first thought this seems like a horrible idea, we have to look out for Sythe before anything else, a lot of these servers redirect and stop people from using Sythe as well impose many other risks which will I cover shortly, we removed the market server because they were taking away from sythe we should do the same here tbh,

    I am inactive in the market atm, in case anyone says this out of a sort of spite or something (you can't check my bumps, you can see I have been super inconsistent as of recent)

    2 Reasons below:
    • They stop people from using the Sythe platform and move people to only engage in a select few servers, this is the main reason for removing them
    • They give imposters a much higher chance of scamming people as they can go through a list of users on the discord server
    There few other things like discord accounts are less in risk of getting banned etc.

    you could basically insert x or y from any of the reasons we removed market servers ban we did a while ago:
    Forbidding Trading Discord Advertisements

    Could also argue what did Richard mean in a statement

    (final note, I am actually neutral on this, but seeing few people talk about it here: Pull suggestions from the community more frequently. made me wonder what would overall community perspective me on it)
     
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  3. Unread #2 - Nov 21, 2021 at 7:08 AM
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    [Denied] Lets remove the advertisement of discord servers on sythe

    1.) How would people communicate? Please describe the order process.
    2.) Can't people just make a blank website with a live chat in 10 minutes and their customers memorize / bookmark the link?
    3.) What about other communication platforms, such as Guilded, or Skype?
    4.) Discord servers are convenient. Won't customers shop for invite links off-site?
    5.) Would people be still allowed to advertise their alternative contact details (Discord, Guilded)?
     
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  5. Unread #3 - Nov 21, 2021 at 7:18 AM
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    [Denied] Lets remove the advertisement of discord servers on sythe

    You remember the skype days, we will go back to them, but discord instead

    1) Group chat for numbers
    2) I don't disagree with this point, but discord server stops you ever coming back to sythe
    3) Skype doesn't have groups like to discord, who uses glided? they all be banned anyway
    4) They just add by discord tag, most already do believe it or not
    5) yes, just no discord groups or gilded etc

    They can still use the groupes, just like the current rules for trading discords, just not advertise them on sythe
     
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  7. Unread #4 - Nov 21, 2021 at 3:20 PM
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    [Denied] Lets remove the advertisement of discord servers on sythe

    No support.
    It’s inevitable that people stop using Sythe as a way to trade and move to Discord.
    There are to many advantages with discord and the idea of make illegal the advertising of the servers will be negative for the future health of Sythe.
    This also means that we should also make illegal the advertisement of websites because literally if people who use people to work can not use it , this would be a big advantage for big websites.
    As a final this suggestion is dangerous for the future of Sythe this could literally make a lot of people leave , this is not 2006 we are in 2021 and things change.
     
  9. Unread #5 - Nov 21, 2021 at 3:22 PM
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    [Denied] Lets remove the advertisement of discord servers on sythe

    Something to add is that some people will not like to use voice chat or things like that.Please take this in mind also
     
  11. Unread #6 - Nov 21, 2021 at 3:36 PM
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    [Denied] Lets remove the advertisement of discord servers on sythe

    These statements conterdict each other
     
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  13. Unread #7 - Nov 21, 2021 at 3:43 PM
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    [Denied] Lets remove the advertisement of discord servers on sythe

    Yeah lol I’m a peanut
    Forget it
     
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  15. Unread #8 - Nov 21, 2021 at 3:45 PM
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    [Denied] Lets remove the advertisement of discord servers on sythe

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  17. Unread #9 - Nov 21, 2021 at 4:38 PM
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    [Denied] Lets remove the advertisement of discord servers on sythe

    Allowing advertisements is great for the owner(s) of the server but bad for Sythe's longevity and activity. I'd guess that many active Sythe users are going to be against this suggestion since they own discord servers and this would likely impact their businesses. The sustainability of Sythe is an afterthought to most.

    This suggestion would create a lot of change. Honestly, I could understand both sides of the argument for/against.

    I don't use any other RS-centric black-market forums, but I've heard that a couple websites are doing well / are active. I'd be curious to hear from someone on whether they allow discord advertisements on-site?
     
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  19. Unread #10 - Nov 21, 2021 at 4:45 PM
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    [Denied] Lets remove the advertisement of discord servers on sythe

    Osbot/dreambot don't unless pay for ability too, hackforms doesn't allow discord at all (I may be wrong on hackforums tho)
     
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    [Denied] Lets remove the advertisement of discord servers on sythe

    I'd like to support it but I think we're too far down that road to turn back.
     
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  23. Unread #12 - Nov 21, 2021 at 6:54 PM
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    [Denied] Lets remove the advertisement of discord servers on sythe

    it is too late. this needed to happen 2 years ago when service discords with ticket systems were being made by everyone. i think there was a big discussion, mutiple actually, about it, but i cant fully remember the details. sythe had a good run though.

    i think most people who still actively provide services are on discord anyway, so it doesnt really affect anything.
     
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    [Denied] Lets remove the advertisement of discord servers on sythe

    Sythe won’t become completely irrelevant, it’s a staple for handling disputes, checking UID’s, advertising and Donor Status. When looking for an account or gold, a website or discord server is easier than searching a market forum listing, not to mention is often automated with immediate delivery. If anything, Sythe should up its game with a more modern market section.
     
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  27. Unread #14 - Nov 28, 2021 at 1:07 AM
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    [Denied] Lets remove the advertisement of discord servers on sythe

    forum format is dying. trying to kill the natural progression of the market instead of adapt would be stupid
     
  29. Unread #15 - Nov 28, 2021 at 4:10 PM
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    [Denied] Lets remove the advertisement of discord servers on sythe

    To be honest, Sythe should just switch to a purely discord-based trading service with a little bit of personality augmentation to preserve the camaraderie that forums helped foster.
     
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    [Denied] Lets remove the advertisement of discord servers on sythe

    They kind of tried that pivot and every server gets quickly banned
     
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  35. Unread #18 - Nov 30, 2021 at 6:32 AM
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    [Denied] Lets remove the advertisement of discord servers on sythe

    this was needed a couple years back, I find it impossible to imagine a future where discord adverts are not allowed. What about IRC? Back to the roots.
     
  37. Unread #19 - Nov 30, 2021 at 10:31 AM
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    [Denied] Lets remove the advertisement of discord servers on sythe

    If people want to use a Discord server instead of a forum then they will do so regardless of Discord servers being advertised here or not.

    Forums are honestly becoming a thing of the past, they do still exist but nowhere near the level of activity they used to be, those who were here around 10 years ago would remember how active it was back then.

    Finally, doesn't the "official" Sythe Discord server keep getting banned by Discord themselves for trading or whatever? Banning other Discord server URLs in favour of an official one (that just keeps getting banned and forcing everyone to manually re-join the new one with the chat server history getting reset each time) seems pointless and tiresome.

    As long as RuneScape exists (and it's always possible to trade on there without Jagex being too aggressive / strict on preventing it) then I think Sythe as a forum will always have traffic due to how long the site has been going. As already said above forums are dying out (most users on them are people who have previously used them for years, not many "new" users of today's generation) and this is simply the internet (and world) moving onto new methods of communicating with each other.

    I think it's a simple case of the "golden years" of the early 2000s / early 2010s are behind us now as far as forum activity goes.
     
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    [Denied] Lets remove the advertisement of discord servers on sythe

    Let's be real. Discord has (almost) nothing to do with this whole situation.
    OSRS died, just look at the osrs account sales and services section. Sellers are offering 30-50% discount so people might buy from them. Even the top service providers have a nonstop 10-15% off, we know it's because of not getting enough sales. I see trusted members trying to sell their accounts for months even though their prices are realistic. And it's the same on Discord, the same accounts are being advertised for months on the servers.
     
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