Lack of logic regarding locked threads...

This has happened several times in the past, but the most recent (less than ten minutes ago) occurrence encouraged me to ask the community if this ever seems to happen to them.

Firstly, i'm not attacking or targeting any staff member, anyone found flaming will be reported and reprimanded.

When a thread is locked, it is 99% of the time locked due to prevent something. For example, I once saw someone post a thread about why MAC chat logs weren't accepted, SMR said they could still be edited. The person asked how it was possible because he couldn't figure out how to, and SMR closed it to prevent it from being a conversation about how to edit chat logs.

Entirely reasonable, logic presented, etc.

On the other hand...i'd love an explanation for this.

A user suggestion: http://sythe.org/showthread.php?p=7488998#post7488998



Reasoned argument in the first post:
"I think it takes just as much trust to give somebody back their account in a failed trade as it does to give it to the buyer in a successful trade." - KeroKeroCola



Opposing arguments:

1) However, I can't imagine an OMM application being 25/25 with unsuccessful trades... - Weasel2013


2) Failed trades don't count for anything because you haven't done anything. Also, it's much more easier to fake proof this way.

The MM application isn't only to show trust, but that you are able to complete trades as well. - Pen

* shouldn't have said "much easier" : http://wvde.state.wv.us/tt/2002/gram...artip0017.html (never got a response to that)

3) Even though it takes time, effort, and honesty on your part, it really doesnt matter if the trade doesnt go through. Plus whats to stop you from lobbying your friends and getting them to help fake set up all your proofs? - Plznate


Okay, an appropriate conversation is taking place over a user suggestion, and mid-debate/discussion, Pen locks the thread. What reason is given? That's what i'd like to know because his post lacks clarity.


"That's exactly what I mean. Do you need a dictionary?"

In the post before, Kero said nothing to prove any of Pen's points, so I have no clue as to what "that's exactly what I mean" has to do with anything.

Also, "Do you need a dictionary?" : It doesn't matter what position you hold or how much experience you have, in an intellectual conversation there is no place for aspersions to another debater. Kero happened to not be a OMM, and he suffered many comments such as "All the OMMs know..." or "If you ever hold the position of OMM..." and lastly this dictionary one, which quite frankly makes absolutely no sense.


Let me know what you think of my two examples, and feel free to provide examples of your own of appropriate and inappropriate locks.

 

Weasel, the theme of the thread and the theme-to-be of this thread is this:

Things happen; you won't like them. Lock.

--My $.02 at least.

 

A thing in particular that upsets me regarding that: When someone locks the thread the thread owner has no chance to respond to it, and 90% of the time the person won't even reply back to your PM requesting an unlock.

The only people i've seen unlock a thread recently are Hahanerd and .Karl. Karl for reasoned debate in Off-topic, and Hahanerd for re-opening locked threads due to lack of pictures in market. Otherwise? You shouldn't count on it...

 

That's just like getting threads locked in the Spam Forum, right? No logic behind it, it's just a moderator didn't like it so they say locked.

 

This.

You preddy much summed it up.

 

Threads in the Spam Forum get locked very rarely.

 

Name the occasions that they do, though.

 

Orly?

http://sythe.org/showthread.php?t=955776

inb4infraction

 

Don't understand what you are trying to link to here: http://wvde.state.wv.us/tt/2002/gram...artip0017.html

As an Administrator, I approve/deny suggestions. If I don't like your suggestion, I am able to deny your suggestion. If it's denied, then discussion is no longer necessary.

 

I'm a "newfag". What am I suppose to know? >_>That obviously doesn't count!

Link was broken.

 

You literally used gram...artip, the link on the original thread was hyperlinked, the real full link is : http://wvde.state.wv.us/tt/2002/grammartips/grammartip0017.html . If it still doesn't work, the point is this: Words used in the superlative state are most, least and the ending est. When -er or -est are used for comparison, "more" and "most" are not also used.


Your second point is concrete, still, perhaps the opinions of twenty other people could have swayed you even the tiniest bit? We'll never know, due to the lock. Also, it is only one example, many other threads have been locked (not by administrators) without sound logic.

 

That's the link you posted in your original post.

I don't base my opinion off the opinion of others. You're welcome to post your opinion in suggestion threads, but it's ultimately not your decision whether a suggestion is approved or denied. If it's denied, then that's it.

 

The link I just provided works for me, I copy and pasted the logic behind my grammatical correction anyway, so the link becomes irrelevant. Any English textbook will tell you what I have just copy and pasted for you.

Shouldn't the Head Middleman at least take a look at a suggestion regarding his area prior to a lock?

 

Who is this Head Middle Man you speak of?

 

Finny's gone : ( I imagine Pen will take up that roll most likely, so he pretty much has say for all things OMM related.

 

Exactly my point.

You use terms such as "imagine" and "most likely". In reality Pen is not head middleman, so he does not pretty much have a say for all things OMM related moreso than any other Admin, and in a fair world, more than any other OMM.

 

.....what? Your posts are getting more ridiculous over time.

I don't know why point you are trying to make. I'm an Administrator, and I have my say in all things OMM related. OMMs do not decide the OMM process.

The MM suggestion was denied; stop trying to debate it.