Is Space Exploration fake?

[mtn dew]

The government does have the technology to give the illusion of objects in the sky, using projections. It's a possibility that some exploration could be fake, but unlikely.

 

[try me]

Valid evidence:
- Backed up by substantial evidence from many sources. Videos, photos, official and SCIENTIFIC reports with methodologies all carefully constructed and criticised by various parties. There are plenty of scientific journals which undergo rigorous peer assessments and revisions before articles are accepted, and in all cases, they must be completely accurate and clear in every sense. Go to your local library and look a few up, you'll find plenty of statistical and empirical evidence on the topic.

The Mythbusters episode of the moon landing conspiracy (yes, I flashed the mythbusters card): They follow strict methodologies to accurately recreate the conditions that were experienced by the moon-landers, and successfully attempt to disprove claims that it never happened. Have a watch.

Lastly, have you experienced the power of these optical devices (electron microscopes, telescopes) first hand? These aren't "made up", and arguing against their ability to "see into space" would just be futile. Book a trip to an observatory, on a clear starry night, and see just how powerful even fairly low resolution telescopes can be.

Your entire argument is from personal incredulity (just because you can't understand it doesn't mean it isn't true). You should provide evidence before coming up with vague claims like this.

This comment is ridiculous, everything you've said here can be said the exact same way arguing the point from the other angle.

 

[fredecus]

Simple and to the point I would not have a job if it were fake and I know for a fact that the hard work and long hours each day are for a reason.

 

[Yorksil]

Here's my point. You can't argue with me that space exploration does exist, because you DON'T KNOW!

"Yes it's possible for a telescope to see 500 light years away." - How did you get the answer to that question? Are you an astronaut, scientist, astronomer, or work for NASA? No. You don't. Space exploration could be as fake as Britney Spears tits, and you would never know the difference, because society is most gullible, and hope for "the best" when it comes to shit like this, and finding new life.

For all we know, a person could have never set foot in "outer-space".

How is a human being going to tell me how many years it would take to travel 300 light years away? Have you ever done it? Obviously not. How do you know that if space does exist, there isn't a "black hole" that shoots you 10,000 light years all at once.

Scientists are a joke.

I love the interesting things about science and history, but come on. At least 50% of the worlds ideas or claims are based on bullshit.

 

[fredecus]

I currently am a co-op student at [cant say]..I can assure you space exploration is true. If you do not believe me go learn for yourself. I was at one point fully convinced that the lunar landing was fake because of how hard it would of been, even after my own grandfather helped design the Saturn rocket. This is all real, no faking.

 

[kill dank]

How is a human being going to tell me how many years it would take to travel 300 light years away? Have you ever done it? Obviously not. How do you know that if space does exist, there isn't a "black hole" that shoots you 10,000 light years all at once.

It's not very hard to calculate things like this.
A light-year is the distance light travels in one Julian year.
Light travels at 186,282 miles per second.
186,282 miles/second x 31,557,600 seconds in a year = 5878612843200 miles
5,878,612,843,200 x 300 = 1,763,583,852,960,000
Now, depending on how fast you're going, it can take you any amount of time;but that part is common sense.
How long do you think it would take to travel 1.7 quadrillion miles?
At the speed of light, it would take 300 years.

You clearly have no idea what you're talking about.

If you're that interested in the topic, go to school to become an astronaut or something. Then you can look back and laugh at your ignorance.

 

[Divine_God]

Here's my point. You can't argue with me that space exploration does exist, because you DON'T KNOW!

"Yes it's possible for a telescope to see 500 light years away." - How did you get the answer to that question? Are you an astronaut, scientist, astronomer, or work for NASA? No. You don't. Space exploration could be as fake as Britney Spears tits, and you would never know the difference, because society is most gullible, and hope for "the best" when it comes to shit like this, and finding new life.

For all we know, a person could have never set foot in "outer-space".

How is a human being going to tell me how many years it would take to travel 300 light years away? Have you ever done it? Obviously not. How do you know that if space does exist, there isn't a "black hole" that shoots you 10,000 light years all at once.

Scientists are a joke.

I love the interesting things about science and history, but come on. At least 50% of the worlds ideas or claims are based on bullshit.

With your logic everything you know and have ever been told is invalid.

COOL LOGIC BRO.

If anything, scientists take the most steps possible to understanding and discovering things. The logic you use is of a religious person.

 

[Spraynwipe]

This comment is ridiculous, everything you've said here can be said the exact same way arguing the point from the other angle.

Okay, prove it then. Give me some evidence from the other point of view. I'll admit I didn't exactly link directly to journals, articles etc. but there are copious amounts available almost anywhere you look.

Here's my point. You can't argue with me that space exploration does exist, because you DON'T KNOW!

"Yes it's possible for a telescope to see 500 light years away." - How did you get the answer to that question? Are you an astronaut, scientist, astronomer, or work for NASA? No. You don't. Space exploration could be as fake as Britney Spears tits, and you would never know the difference, because society is most gullible, and hope for "the best" when it comes to shit like this, and finding new life.

For all we know, a person could have never set foot in "outer-space".

How is a human being going to tell me how many years it would take to travel 300 light years away? Have you ever done it? Obviously not. How do you know that if space does exist, there isn't a "black hole" that shoots you 10,000 light years all at once.

Scientists are a joke.

I love the interesting things about science and history, but come on. At least 50% of the worlds ideas or claims are based on bullshit.

All scientific theories are just that - theories. They are constantly evolving as more evidence is put forward. Just know that there are strict principles involved in discovering anything, making a report about it and sharing it with the scientific world. It is a rigorous and unforgiving process, and 90% of the time theories aren't accepted on the basis of lack of proof. Don't go and say scientists are a joke when you really don't have any idea how the scientific world operates.

And the vagueness of that sentence "at least 50% of the worlds ideas or claims are based on bullshit" is just amusing. Better go live in a cave without technology, after all, you don't believe in any of it, correct?

Source: I study medical science at university, have had to make reports following the said strict guidelines, lectures about how hard the scientific world is to prove your findings and become noticed, practical use and application of devices (including telescopes and electron microscopes + imaging devices/shit you said doesn't exist which does in fact exist.)

 

[Willy1234]

These are questions that concern me, and I would love to discuss this whole topic.

Let's begin! The simple answer is that space exploration is not fake, and the questions about possibility are indeed possible, and the questions about scenarios have been factored in.
Heres the thing. You are believing what you hear. Prove to me that men landed on the moon. Prove to me that land rovers are actually on Mars. Prove to me that the Hubble telescope is real.

If you haven't noticed, Hollywood can make some pretty realistic looking stuff, and if no one has ever been to Mars or the Moon before, who's to judge and say it's not real. Well I'm that guy judging it, because I don't believe that in 1969, they landed men on the moon, but to this day, can't or won't do it.

Prove to me it's fake?

The hubble telescope - go buy a cheap telescope from E-bay, it's the same thing just hundreds if not thousands of times more advanced and larger. I fail to see why you would doubt that the hubble telescope is real.

They have been to the moon, fair enough it's a common conspiracy theory that it didn't actually happen. They CAN land men on the moon but don't see why they should. Why spend so much more money and risk human lives to send someone to do something a robot can do at half the price and no risk?

As for the rovers on mars, ofcourse it's real, why would they lie? They may however me holding back vital information about mars from us but ofcourse they have been. There is no reason for them to lie.

Infact it's quite the opposite, they would usually prefer to keep advanced technology away from public eye to save other countries/organisations from aquiring secret technology.

I can gurantee the American/European/Russian/Chinese governments have advanced technology beyong our wildest dreams, We are just not told about it.

Theres a rumour that someone created an invisibility device from one of the stated governments above(Excluding European as Europe is a continent.)


I put it to you, Prove to me that any of the above you stated is fake?

 

[Yorksil]

With your logic everything you know and have ever been told is invalid.

COOL LOGIC BRO.

If anything, scientists take the most steps possible to understanding and discovering things. The logic you use is of a religious person.

Ironic how you talk down on being religious when you've God in your name. Ignorant child.

Fact of the matter is, none of you have been in space, and none of you will ever go to space.

I'm not saying outer space if fake, morons. I'm saying that people making up bullshit calculations and telling me there is billions of galaxies and space never ends, is a joke. Everything comes to an end at one point. Could be 10 trillion miles, could be a googol. Either way, no one will ever know, and I believe that what our government tells us and shows us about Space exploration is bullshit.

Prove to me it's fake?

The hubble telescope - go buy a cheap telescope from E-bay, it's the same thing just hundreds if not thousands of times more advanced and larger. I fail to see why you would doubt that the hubble telescope is real.

They have been to the moon, fair enough it's a common conspiracy theory that it didn't actually happen. They CAN land men on the moon but don't see why they should. Why spend so much more money and risk human lives to send someone to do something a robot can do at half the price and no risk?

As for the rovers on mars, ofcourse it's real, why would they lie? They may however me holding back vital information about mars from us but ofcourse they have been. There is no reason for them to lie.

Infact it's quite the opposite, they would usually prefer to keep advanced technology away from public eye to save other countries/organisations from aquiring secret technology.

I can gurantee the American/European/Russian/Chinese governments have advanced technology beyong our wildest dreams, We are just not told about it.

Theres a rumour that someone created an invisibility device from one of the stated governments above(Excluding European as Europe is a continent.)


I put it to you, Prove to me that any of the above you stated is fake?

Nothing to say to you. You are talking out of your ass like a normal child would. Don't deny being a child either, as you can't even spell the word guarantee.

When you come back with facts on what you've stated, I'll respond. Until then, stop making shit up.

 

[T V]

Ironic how you talk down on being religious when you've God in your name. Ignorant child.

Fact of the matter is, none of you have been in space, and none of you will ever go to space.

I'm not saying outer space if fake, morons. I'm saying that people making up bullshit calculations and telling me there is billions of galaxies and space never ends, is a joke. Everything comes to an end at one point. Could be 10 trillion miles, could be a googol. Either way, no one will ever know, and I believe that what our government tells us and shows us about Space exploration is bullshit.



Nothing to say to you. You are talking out of your ass like a normal child would. Don't deny being a child either, as you can't even spell the word guarantee.

When you come back with facts on what you've stated, I'll respond. Until then, stop making shit up.

There's your key phrase.
You're not even arguing as to whether or not you believe space exploration is possible or not. You seem to believe that because none of us have ever been in space, we're stupid for believing it's not impossible? That's ridiculous. You're talking to a demographic of people who's age ranges from 13 to their mid 20's. NO SHIT we've never been in space. Do you have any idea the sort of training you have to undergo to to attain the perquisite qualifications for withstanding lift-off alone?
You're doing nothing but espousing generic cynicism typical of every narrow-minded person who seemingly feels they're more intelligent than everyone else because they refuse to believe in progress.

 

[RedX]

It is all possible for them to do, just takes a lot of time for them to perfect it. It is not fake by any means it's just tough to get there in a certain amount of time.

 

[Yorksil]

There's your key phrase.
You're not even arguing as to whether or not you believe space exploration is possible or not. You seem to believe that because none of us have ever been in space, we're stupid for believing it's not impossible? That's ridiculous. You're talking to a demographic of people who's age ranges from 13 to their mid 20's. NO SHIT we've never been in space. Do you have any idea the sort of training you have to undergo to to attain the perquisite qualifications for withstanding lift-off alone?
You're doing nothing but espousing generic cynicism typical of every narrow-minded person who seemingly feels they're more intelligent than everyone else because they refuse to believe in progress.

Not my fault you're gullible and believe everything the government says. You probably still think that JFK was assassinated by Lee Harvey Oswald. Let me put it this way. My cousin is a high ranking officer in the U.S Army, and he told me from him seeing what goes on or had gone on in the Middle, they do a lot worse there to the natives than the German's did to the Jews, Gypsies, and Slavs during the holocaust. The government can plan, fake, and do anything they want, because they always have people who can make it reality. Get your head out of the gutter kid. This whole world is based off of lies, and I'm explaining my reasoning on why it is. When you want to respond with intelligence to disprove me, be my guest.

 

[Jimmy]

I'm not saying outer space if fake, morons. I'm saying that people making up bullshit calculations and telling me there is billions of galaxies and space never ends, is a joke. Everything comes to an end at one point. Could be 10 trillion miles, could be a googol. Either way, no one will ever know, and I believe that what our government tells us and shows us about Space exploration is bullshit.

It's clear you haven't a rudimentary understanding of classical mechanics. You're also not in much of a position here to be criticizing other people's grammar.

Here's my point. You can't argue with me that space exploration does exist, because you DON'T KNOW!

We've seen rockets launch and it's trivial to calculate the energy required to launch such an object into space considering the necessary escape velocity.

"Yes it's possible for a telescope to see 500 light years away." - How did you get the answer to that question? Are you an astronaut, scientist, astronomer, or work for NASA? No. You don't.

Ignoring that the grammar of your question is incorrect, we are able to see objects that are 500 light years away as they were 500 years ago.

Space exploration could be as fake as Britney Spears tits, and you would never know the difference, because society is most gullible, and hope for "the best" when it comes to shit like this, and finding new life.

It's clear you have nothing more to offer than baseless attacks on the intelligence level of society (you surely aren't helping this problem), so I'm not too sure what you're trying to achieve by this line of questioning. Science isn't faith-based; the fact that you mistakenly think it is demonstrates only your own ignorance of the subject.

For all we know, a person could have never set foot in "outer-space".

We're afloat in outer space.

How is a human being going to tell me how many years it would take to travel 300 light years away? Have you ever done it? Obviously not.

Through mathematics, just like one can predict the time it will take an object to fall knowing only the height from which it's falling and the acceleration due to gravity.

How do you know that if space does exist, there isn't a "black hole" that shoots you 10,000 light years all at once.

Do you have the slightest idea what you're talking about?

Scientists are a joke.

Somebody on this thread is surely a joke...

I love the interesting things about science and history, but come on. At least 50% of the worlds ideas or claims are based on bullshit.

And you got this figure from where?

 

[T V]

Not my fault you're gullible and believe everything the government says. You probably still think that JFK was assassinated by Lee Harvey Oswald. Let me put it this way. My cousin is a high ranking officer in the U.S Army, and he told me from him seeing what goes on or had gone on in the Middle, they do a lot worse there to the natives than the German's did to the Jews, Gypsies, and Slavs during the holocaust. The government can plan, fake, and do anything they want, because they always have people who can make it reality. Get your head out of the gutter kid. This whole world is based off of lies, and I'm explaining my reasoning on why it is. When you want to respond with intelligence to disprove me, be my guest.

I'm just gonna quote my earlier response

If that's going to be your only argument, you're wasting your time here. No one is going to be able to convince you of anything you aren't willing to believe.

What are you doing here? No one listens to baseless cynicism. You're only coming off as total degenerate by rehashing the same pathetic "arguments" (if you can call them that) over and over again.

 

[Yorksil]

I'm just gonna quote my earlier response




What are you doing here? No one listens to baseless cynicism. You're only coming off as total degenerate by rehashing the same pathetic "arguments" (if you can call them that) over and over again.

Well, if I get children like you who copy words that other users posted such as "cynicism", I know I'm not going to get a good argument back. Do you even understand what the word means? Clearly you don't as you didn't use it properly in a sentence. My arguments will always win because you don't have proof. The whole point of this thread is to argue the point. Not try to make me BELIEVE. Obviously you can't convince a person who posted the topic stating why it's fake. Only way I would be convinced is if I was taken to another galaxy, or taken to the moon. Which will never happen, because astronauts haven't done in. You're an idiot, and can't bring a valid argument. If you have nothing sensible to post in to the topic, don't post at all. This thread is to discuss the matter. Not re-peat your posts which was already infracted for spam, mindless goon.

 

[ZmanDog]

There's no way...People like to just bring up this conversations because they are too stupid to realize that there are people about 20x smarter than they are. (not saying the thread starting is stupid)

 

[Emperor Nero]

Well, if I get children like you who copy words that other users posted such as "cynicism", I know I'm not going to get a good argument back. Do you even understand what the word means? Clearly you don't as you didn't use it properly in a sentence. My arguments will always win because you don't have proof. The whole point of this thread is to argue the point. Not try to make me BELIEVE. Obviously you can't convince a person who posted the topic stating why it's fake. Only way I would be convinced is if I was taken to another galaxy, or taken to the moon. Which will never happen, because astronauts haven't done in. You're an idiot, and can't bring a valid argument. If you have nothing sensible to post in to the topic, don't post at all. This thread is to discuss the matter. Not re-peat your posts which was already infracted for spam, mindless goon.

Rage rage rage rage rage rage.

The purpose of the SFA is to argue using logic and hard evidence. You decide to make a post on a subject and never came in with an open mind to what others may offer, and your facts are obviously flawed as well as your argument and tactics. If you are going to come in here and argue you have to try to prove more than just 'It never happened because I've never done it.' that is like saying 'Surfing isn't real because I have never surfed.' You offer no logical and valid proof as to why it can't happen besides made up statistics and flawed reasoning. So continue to rage and make yourself look even more ignorant, it's okay. We'll just enjoy ridiculing you in the process.

 

[Jimmy]

Only way I would be convinced is if I was taken to another galaxy, or taken to the moon. Which will never happen, because astronauts haven't done in. You're an idiot, and can't bring a valid argument. If you have nothing sensible to post in to the topic, don't post at all. This thread is to discuss the matter. Not re-peat your posts which was already infracted for spam, mindless goon.

Clearly, the standard of evidence you require is completely unreasonable, and thus, nothing can be demonstrated to you. Since, by your own admission, you will not accept the facts that we've discovered about the universe, I don't understand why you continue to post on this thread. There can be no discussion if you refuse to hear any logically sound regarding the matter.

Your argument can be summed up as follows: I don't understand physics. I don't understand mathematics. I don't understand science at all. Therefore, space exploration is fake because the government is evil and society is stupid. I will not adjust my view unless I was taken billions of light years away from my current position into another galaxy.

Conversing with invalids as vacuous as you are is not a useful endeavor.

 

[Yorksil]

Clearly, the standard of evidence you require is completely unreasonable, and thus, nothing can be demonstrated to you. Since, by your own admission, you will not accept the facts that we've discovered about the universe, I don't understand why you continue to post on this thread. There can be no discussion if you refuse to hear any logically sound regarding the matter.

Your argument can be summed up as follows: I don't understand physics. I don't understand mathematics. I don't understand science at all. Therefore, space exploration is fake because the government is evil and society is stupid. I will not adjust my view unless I was taken billions of light years away from my current position into another galaxy.

Conversing with invalids as vacuous as you are is not a useful endeavor.

Like a said, SFA is for arguing the main thread, which people are doing. My job as not agreeing with them is to argue back. If you can't understand the concept, feel free to leave at any time. One thing I have learned about the members of this site is that the maturity level for the majority is between 11 - 14. I want valid arguments. Not people like you who can't give facts.

Oh wait. That brings this back to the main post. Why can't you give any facts? You yourself aren't sure about space exploration. Go look online for some actual, factual (that rhymed) information. Until then, don't reply about how I am arrogant and a "degenerate", because I don't believe in bullshit that scientists themselves aren't sure about.