Is homosexuality a choice?

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Is homosexuality a choice?
  1. Unread #1 - Jun 19, 2012 at 4:28 AM
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    Is homosexuality a choice?

    I believe that is not a choice by any means. When did you wake up and say I think I like girls today. Our attraction is hardwired into our brain at birth and those that have homosexual tendencies are born that way. As for the no its a choice argument with god involved if god did not love people who are
    homosexuals and never makes mistakes why would he make a person who would commit acts he hates. I am curious as to what the rest of you think.
    Edit:For the record I am straight.
     
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    Is homosexuality a choice?

    It's apparently an error in their genetic makeup while they're growing from an embryo. It's not their choice. Some people don't actually know. A lot of homosexuals try their whole adolescent life to be straight, and just can't be no matter how hard they may try. So, technically it's not their fault.

    A lot of homosexuals talk the same way (somewhat like a woman), so that may be a key. There have been some that do choose to talk that way, even though that's a stupid excuse to try to fit into the majority of the crowd. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure that there was a study conducted at a university that found that the majority who do talk like that were given an extra Y chromosome. So, there again, it's not their choice or fault. I knew a gay person for around 10 years, and he recently came out (although I knew he was always gay by the way he talked and his actions), and he talked like the majority of the homosexual population his whole life. Even before some homosexuals know they're gay, they have the accent and it becomes more predominant as they age.

    Although, I'm straight (not really needing to state that), I have nothing wrong with homosexuals. Sexuality isn't really a choice, and it doesn't define character if you don't let it. If you're going to go out in skin tight leather pants sporting a flashy Lady Gaga shirt, be my guest. I'm not going to judge someone for how they dress, or their sexuality. Sadly, there's a whole world of ignorant people who will because they're afraid of the 'unknown.'
     
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    Is homosexuality a choice?

    The way I see it, humans are animals, animals breed (male + female). But where we differ from the others is in the amount of influence the culture we've created has on us. In recent times I think that's where the majority of it has come from; media desensitizes you to homosexuality, you become curious, you try it, you like, you become it.
    But then again, both Da Vinci and Shakespeare were known to have interests in men, so there's probably more to it than just a societal influence. In fact, I'm sure there could be a whole range of factors for why someone would be homosexual, whether it be genetic, a choice, or a cry for attention.
     
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    Is homosexuality a choice?

    A classic question :p

    The way i see it... when we are born, we straight away start "learning, adapting, growing, etc."
    The young mind is something that can be easily molded, or "manipulated".

    Think about this; if a boy spends 75% of his time with the mother, doing femanine type things... (not so much the boy, but, lets say, going to the mall with mom, going with her on her arrends, etc.) Don't you think there is a chance that the boy could have some mental retainment of a more femanine life, inso telling himself that males are attractive...

    I'm not genius, or anything close to it... and your theory is very good as well.


    **Me, personally, am straight.
    ***However, I myself DID spend the majority of my younger days with my mom... So before you say "Oh Goon you're such a hypocrite!!", know that as i am straight, i've always had a knack for style and wanting to match, being clean.. So as I am no way attracted to a mans junk, I am a pretty snazy dresser.
     
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    Is homosexuality a choice?

    * i personally spent most my life with my mom...
    i also like to be clean, look good ect... but i dont understand what would make them wanna be gay, which is why i would say its not a choice

    but another thought is... maybe there just a lil bit more carefull with there money ;) no what am saying
     
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    Is homosexuality a choice?

    No, I've stated it many times before, homosexuality isn't a choice. It's just like how you don't choose if you're heterosexual. I think this video explains well on the topic:

     
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    Is homosexuality a choice?

    I don't understand your purported connection between femininity and homosexuality. Your argument is illogical. How would spending a majority of time with women induce homosexuality in a man? How would going on errands subliminally convince a young boy to be attracted to men? Last I checked, supermarkets aren't filled with shirtless pictures of Neil Patrick Harris. Would that mean that young girls who spent time around their dads would also have a greater chance of being homosexual?

    Homosexuality isn't a choice. If you can't understand how someone could be gay, how could you possibly choose to be homosexual?
     
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    Is homosexuality a choice?

    as i heterosexual, i know i don't choose to be heterosexual, i know what i'm attracted too. That should not be any different for homosexuals.

    For me homosexuality could be a choice to experiment or explore, and for a homosexual, heterosexual could be a choice to try to fit into a cruel society or religion. But inside you are what you are.
    /insert lady gaga quote
     
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    Is homosexuality a choice?

    There has been many studies into this.... most fathers would hate their son to be gay - thus enforcing straight life style
    - so as you know so little about where the comment has came from.. shhhh
     
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    Is homosexuality a choice?

    I don't mean to spark any radical debates here, but being a serial killer isn't a choice either. Some people have a genetic predisposition to becoming a serial killer. However, that doesn't mean that their actions should be condoned.
     
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    Is homosexuality a choice?

    Definitely not an intelligent discussion. However, it is not a decision. People don't choose whether they are straight or gay. So this isn't really a discussion up for debate. If it were a choice, would it be a good one? Hell no. That's not to say it's wrong, that is to say life is significantly more challenging for many people, simply because they are homosexual. It goes against religion. Nothing is easy about being homosexual, and the people that are open about it are brave, they have more character in doing so than most people do.


    This may be true to an extent, but it is very widely known and accepted that the reason most people are messed up, so to speak, is because of their life experience. Being neglected as a kid, beaten, bullied, negative experiences can corrupt some people's minds. Look at the two kid's that murdered James Bulger, pure evil but their terribly insecure upbringing played a part in that.
     
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    Is homosexuality a choice?

    Killing is an action, not a feeling, so yes, it is a choice. What is the relevance of this statement to the question at hand?
     
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    Is homosexuality a choice?

    It's not a choice. Some people have a predisposition to kill. Having a predisposition doesn't necessarily give you much of a choice. It's hardwired into their brains.

    If we're going to talk about feelings, well, some serial killers can only feel sexual pleasure by murder. A good example is Andrei Chikatilo.

    And its relevance to the topic is ambiguous, but nevertheless, existent. I believe that the connotation behind the thread title is that if homosexuality isn't a choice, then it's not justifiable for us to argue negatively against it.
     
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    Is homosexuality a choice?

    I really think homosexuality depends on the people you are with and around and the way you are raised.

    Im not sure how to say this, but say, if i spent all my time with girl's and them telling me what they find attractive about guys, i would slowly develop the same feelings toward guys? I really think it's not a choice but more of an appeal.
     
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    Is homosexuality a choice?

    I'm sorry, but you are just completely incorrect. Your reasoning is illogical and altogether childish. It seems to be based upon stereotypes rather than any scientific proof. How would doing womanly chores influence someone to be homosexual? Not all gay people are exceedingly effeminate. That isn't true about fathers. I'd love to see your proof/studies. If your reasoning was correct, single mothers would just produce tons of homosexual kids.

    How would a father not wanting his children to be gay prevent them from being gay? It isn't like under pressure from their parents they could choose not to be gay. If it isn't a choice, then the opinions of mother/father can't shape the sexuality of the child. If homosexual men are closer with their mothers, that doesn't necessarily mean that being close with your mother makes you homosexual.

    Correlation does not imply causation.


    I found opinions similar to yours online, mostly on homophobic websites. These "pro-family" websites warn about the dangers of gay rights, feminism, and atheism/Judaism.
    Fathersforlife is a good example. Here is a cool article from them!

    What i'm trying to say here, is you don't know much about the origins of sexuality. Your opinions and hypotheses are formulated out of ignorance and borderline bigotry.

    You don't have to commit homosexual acts to be a homosexual. You can be predisposed to violence, but you still have to kill someone to be a murderer.
     
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    Is homosexuality a choice?

    You haven't responded to any of my point. You haven't given me any proof whatsoever. Of course i'm favorable of one side, I'm arguing a specific side. I'm not being emotional, my argument is based on logic and scientific evidence. Your viewpoints are predicated upon bigotry and pseudo-science. You don't have any empirical data.

    In short: You are completely wrong and altogether misinformed. You've probably realized this and chosen not to acknowledge my response to your rather Philistine post. Freud's view on homosexuality are outdated and untrue.


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    Is homosexuality a choice?

    And being predisposed to violence is still something that should not be condoned. Why? Because of its possible negative consequences, being murder. Now, are homosexual acts a NEGATIVE consequence of homosexuality? If they are, homosexuality should not be condoned. If they aren't, then there's little to no reason to have any negative attitude towards homosexuality. This is in accordance with the analogy.

    What do I choose? Completely irrelevant - it's a highly debatable question, and prone to opinions.
     
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    Is homosexuality a choice?

    This is a stupid topic of discussion but nevertheless I'll put in my input.

    Homosexuality can be both a choice and not a choice. There is literally no way to stop yourself from being interested in a certain gender, should you have been born that way. On the other hand, I feel that experimental homosexuality is an occurrence which happens in many peoples lives which is perfectly fine. Although I am yet to kiss a male, I'm sure it will happen eventually, etc. etc. There is really no reason to judge anyone for their preferences or what they do though.
     
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    Is homosexuality a choice?

    I have to agree with this. I believe there are people who are predisposed to it and then there are people who choose it because it will garner attention.
     
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    Is homosexuality a choice?

    Well there's the attention factor for sure, especially in younger ages. But i've found that sometimes it's just a way of finding yourself and strengthening/figuring out what you like. It's a part of growing.
     
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