IRL Seller Scammed Me

[DH PKING]

Scammer's profile link: http://www.sythe.org/members/377431-irl-seller.html
Explain the service: He was charging me 10M for 20K chins used on my account.
Sythe PM picture:
http://imgur.com/KbeujQK
http://imgur.com/By9lZB8

Skype profile ID & conversation:
http://imgur.com/BMq7Ad8 (ID)
http://imgur.com/h0pNPdJ,aUCguQZ,4R...H9CxS,1p2S4yY,6Byg52x,mJ0PYHF,pZdh1TD,NjhxgAO (Skype Convo, 11 Screenshots Total - Sorry!)

Proof that the service was not completed: http://imgur.com/j7VqB1L

Other relevant trade screenshots:

http://imgur.com/VTM4VNF,daG6dLc,K5aXrOa,Yd3lpHS,Z0l4Su2,pWcgMkm,cQHqmpy,17ua1QF (Full bank pictures).

EDIT: Sorry also forgot to post the sending of the details: http://imgur.com/5ASL2uv

I can send the non censored version to any mod/admin if needed.

Please let me know if any other screenshots are needed. The total wealth taken was 10M Cash, 20K chins, Berserker ring (i), Dharoks Set, And any other random stuff that was in the bank worth any value.

I can gladly provide any more screenshots if needed. I'm upset because he's the first person I've trusted on Sythe with a fairly decent amount of cash (although it doesn't put a big dent in my 07 bank) and he seemed quite in with the higher staff on here so I thought I'd trust him.

I guess post count really doesn't count for much.

Thanks in advance.

 

[Ziggily]

I have asked Seller to post his side of the story. Post should be made shortly and I will merge it here.

 

[DH PKING]

I have asked Seller to post his side of the story. Post should be made shortly and I will merge it here.

Perfect, thanks.

 

[DH PKING]

Sorry also forgot to post the sending of the details: http://imgur.com/5ASL2uv

I can send the non censored version to any mod/admin if needed.

 

[IRL Seller]

"Scam" Report: http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?p=13250663#post13250663

The Original Thread/Service in question: http://www.sythe.org/runescape-2007-skill-training/1683674-need-trusted-person-chin.html

Our Agreement: 10m 07 (upfront) in exchange for doing 20K chins in MM Tunnels to train range. All supplies would be supplied by DH Pking.​

First and Foremost, here is our text that we have said to each other on skype.
I apologize for the length of this conversation… I will apply everything I have to say in Bold Red font beneath the relevant pictures.


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Introduction
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Agreement on the deal of 20K Chins for 10m Cash
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He backs out of the trade and I tell him to take his time and that he can sleep on it tonight. He is fish flopping back and forth between me and another user
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Me telling him not much work will be done the night of the deal (last night)
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He was online, as indicated by his Skype status, and he said he would be on mobile at some point in the day to check in with me.
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I ASK PERMISSION TO LOG ONTO THE ACCOUNT TO START THE ORDER. HE WAS ONLINE DURING THE WHOLE TIME ON SYTHE AND SKYPE. HE SIMPLY IGNORED ME.
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In reference to photo #14 (above): The FIRST PM I got from DH came at 3:01 pm, approx. 2 hours later

Next, is our PM’s

Our PM’s on the afternoon of 2/20/14 went as follows:

20K Chins for 10m 07

Currently posting the ban report now. Got a screenshot of you deleting me saying you accidently put chat on.

A screenshot of you telling people you're cleaned on my account.

A video of the trade and me giving you the password.

Your confirmation of Skype, PM's, service, etc.

All for 18M ? What a waste of all of those posts, etc. And I've grabbed your IP on Skype so I hope you can change that fairly quickly.

That is presuming you've scammed me which it looks like you have.

Let me know

I'm not even on atm. You didn't answer my pm.. wtf

You are, only person who knew my Password and definitely nobody knew the bank pin because it was a new one that was set last night just for you and PM'd to you.

So if anything is missing I'll know it can only be you.

What is missing??

and bank pins can't be set in 1 day mate, 3 day waiting period (just an FYI). If you don't have control of your acc i'd recommend recovering it because I am not on it at this time. I logged in once earlier to make sure the password and bank pin worked and that's it.

It was changed from my usual bank pin to that new one. So you're trying to tell me that coincidentally someone has guessed my password while you're in control of my account, logged on, guessed the bank pin and taken stuff?

I'm not sure if anything has been taken yet, I'll know once I log on as it's not going to be an easy recovery.

Obviously if nothing is missing then I apologize but it can be a computer problem on my end because I have a pure with all of my cash on which hasn't been touched. That also has no bank pin.

I don't know what has happened or if you are logged on and just fucking with me, but run a virus scan with malware bytes anti malware, just to make sure you don't have an viruses or anything. I'll do the same on my end.

Already done that, I'm not logged on. I'm sat at a friends and only logged on briefly as I said I was going to today, to find you with chat on.

As I've said it isn't a RAT or Keylogger on my end as my pure would have been taken over too. If it's on your end then let me know, that may explain all of this.

Hopefully they won't have at least got into the bank.

I have two factor and my phone has been in my pocket all day. So that would be impossible. Still scanning none the less. ETA: 2 hrs on the full scan

OK, well this has all happened in the time you've been in control of the account. Let me know your actions and I'll let you know if anything is missing, that way I can decide what action to take. Won't post the ban thread until then.

Account is NOT in my control. you were logged onto skype for 3+ hours and I was awaiting you telling me it was okay to start the service.

I PM'd you the details as soon as you sent the PM confirming the service, our skype conversation, etc.

I have the video of me explaining to you that I was giving you the password, etc and going off for a few days so it could be started tonight. You agreed and accepted that. If you'd like to just take it to dispute I'll post the thread and evidence/images/videos and we'll see how it pans out. I'm sure the mods/admins will see it from my side.

You are on right now and have STILL not responded to me on Skype... kinda sketchy tbh. Also I have a fairly high reputation to uphold. Let me know when you recover and let me know if anything is gone,

I'm not on Skype, I'm at a friends so on a laptop. Want me to sign on and see what you've said? By all means I will although I don't see how that will make any difference to the situation.

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My Explanation of What Happened

Simply put...

1) I did not log onto his account due to not having permission to start (see screenshot 14).
2) Upon further review and talking with other members, I have found that the account he was having me train, was a STOLEN ACCOUNT. LoLSmurfin bought and trained the account to 94 magic and had gold on it when it was recovered. The account was verified with LoLSmufin by stats, log in name, and in game names.

Concurrent views by myself, Smurfin, and Morgan...
1) The account which is "semi-famous" upon review of this Rebuttal, will be reported to the do not buy list (by me).
2) The owner of the account is a TERRIBLE staker, the views of myself and others are that he lost his wealth and is now trying to blame me.

I am willing to work with staff and other users, including DH Pking in order to work this out. I can be reached very easily on Skype (PM Ziggily/Entrr/Dave/Farcast/Mohtasa/Trin for my Skype name).

Please merge this with his original report here.


EDIT: Not sure how to quote in all of my PM's, but I can always report any suspect PM's/I believe N4N0 can pull them up if needed.

 

[DH PKING]

In response to the above:

Firstly:

1) I did not log onto his account due to not having permission to start (see screenshot 14).

Secondly:
Please provide proof that this account was in fact owned by LoLSmurfin, if so that's something to be looked in to straight away as I'm not the original owner. If the account is unsafe I'd like to know.

Thirdly:

I can prove to any moderator right now that I have not in fact "Staked away my bank" - My bank is sitting on my pure minus the 10M for his payment, 20K chins, etc.

Finally:

I didn't reply on Skype because I've been busy all day. Although signed in on my mobile I've not been actively using it as I'd already stated I wouldn't be very active all day today.

 

[Ziggily]

OP is banned for ban evasion.