infractions for "accusing someone of scamming without evidence"

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infractions for "accusing someone of scamming without evidence"
  1. Unread #41 - Jun 20, 2011 at 1:01 AM
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    infractions for "accusing someone of scamming without evidence"

    You have no idea how frustrating it is to have 3 scam reports on 1 person and none of them have enough proof to ban.....

    Now if I wanted I could just ban anyone who had 2+ reports on them but I don't feel like getting burned over and over.
     
  3. Unread #42 - Jun 20, 2011 at 1:09 AM
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    infractions for "accusing someone of scamming without evidence"

    If people just followed the rules it wouldn't be as hard for the staff to ban people. It might be laborious, but there is no other way.
     
  5. Unread #43 - Jun 20, 2011 at 1:11 AM
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    infractions for "accusing someone of scamming without evidence"

    I know, I have 3 recovered accounts off here right now I haven't reported, those are the hardest to get banned, ones from a decently vouched member too, I think around 15-20.

    And to what Clash said, No I have no problem with that, because that is common sense and can be applied to every members account being for sale here, someone wouldn't be looking to buy if they aren't willing to take that risk. Although, I also don't think your analogy was super spot on, I am more pertaining to the sythe user whereas you replied about the accounts, either way I wouldn't have a problem. Also, to what you said about Nick, yes I felt he stated his opinion well, but he closed it after so no further discussion could occur, no other opinions gathered. I do not post swearing and incoherently say I hate this and this and this but have a educated conversation. I have nothing against him, and I understand completely, I have modded forums bigger than scythe (although not black market, so not having to deal with some of these aspects).

    Someone can post in any of my selling threads and say, be careful of Cami, he may have a post count, and may have some vouches, but look at his join date! He is too new here and it is possible he is a scammer!

    I would have no problem with the above, I would reply and say that I have been involved in many trades here where I was trusted to go second from other respectable members here, I have sold accounts that have never been recovered, I would let the facts speak for them self. If they don't feel comfortable trading, I would rather them not.

    Would you have a problem if you were selling something and I posted on your thread and said, "Even though he is a mod, it is still possible for a mod to scam someone". That is complete opinion and true, I am not calling you a scammer and I am not accusing you of anything, but stating a fact that it would be possible for a Mod to scam someone.

    Also, I doubt it would effect anyones opinions of you, because they would look at the facts you have to back you up, and about my opinion, and come to a conclusion that your facts outweigh my opinion.

    I don't feel allowing things like this would be a problem. I challenge you and give permission to do it in any of my threads. (Although my threads aren't great examples because they are failing miserably on there own).

    Also, about the Log thing, I understand you can do that, I am saying it is just as easy (maybe not just as easy) but very easy to do the exact same with a MSN window, and it is rather silly for one to be accepted and the other not. I don't think either should be used as proof, but they make a fair guide when you have other evidence to back up your chat logs and your MSN histories.
     
  7. Unread #44 - Jun 20, 2011 at 12:04 PM
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    infractions for "accusing someone of scamming without evidence"

    Actually with enough proof you can easily ban a person. I have banned 2 or 3 persons on Sythe with the proof I had and it wasn't that many pictures. But I had to also post extra pictures that mods requested. I would advice everyone to log their msn's history, that would be a great extra evidence on a report.
     
  9. Unread #45 - Jun 20, 2011 at 2:26 PM
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    infractions for "accusing someone of scamming without evidence"

    It seems MSN history isn't considered as proof due to the fact it can be edited easily. What needs to be done is just taking frequent screenshots.
     
  11. Unread #46 - Jun 20, 2011 at 3:05 PM
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    infractions for "accusing someone of scamming without evidence"

    This is what I am talking about, taking frequent screen shots because MSN history isn't allowed, although I feel it should be when you have other evidence that backs up your MSN history. It just isn't worth it to me anymore, it's too annoying and too hard to get someone banned and requires too much work for nothing in return.

    The problem being is you need all that evidence sometimes when it is just so obvious. A dude scams an account back literally 5 mins after selling, and logs of MSN, and blocks you on here. It should not be that hard at all. Like you said you had to provide extra info on request to get a dude banned. Would you have personally traded with this guy again? No. You did it to help the community, and in return you get a slow process that sometimes does not have enough proof.

    What are you doing when you get someone banned here? It isn't helping yourself at all, because you have already been scammed. It is helping the community to not have to deal with someone who has scammed you. But when it is so hard to help the community, it is hard to care that much. My last report took me like over an hour to make, than it waits there for 5-6 days while that person can scam others, I just don't see the point.
     
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