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  1. Unread #21 - Nov 28, 2012 at 2:22 PM
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    Any trusted player who is inactive and gets hacked can scam, I know the OMM rank makes them seem more trusted but people with generally 150+ vouches are seen as trusted by the majority of people.
     
  3. Unread #22 - Nov 28, 2012 at 2:29 PM
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    I agree with that, I mean even a handful of vouches makes someone look trusted, someone with 30 vouches could easily scam 1 bill in my opinion.
     
  5. Unread #23 - Nov 28, 2012 at 2:38 PM
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    I can clear up some of your concerns. I imposed an OMM activity requirement. OMMs lose the rank if they don't login every 90 days. They have to reapply via a special application process, conduct trades, and remain active for a month. We implemented it to avoid hacking situations or the "come back and make a quick dollar" issue. A number of users lost the rank under my time, but it falls on N4n0 to uphold the standard now.

    If OMMs generally aren't doing trades(and only logging on once per 90 days), they're usually removed from the activity list. Having someone have the rank but not actively advertise via the list is not an issue.

    With regard to promotions... I'm assuming staff try to add more but issues arise. Wouldn't you rather have a select collection of trusted middleman versus a number of more suspicious individuals?
     
  7. Unread #24 - Nov 28, 2012 at 2:42 PM
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    Glad to see someone trying to keep some structure in the OMM community, N4N0 is verry active so i guess hes gonna have some sort of go at this matter.
     
  9. Unread #25 - Nov 28, 2012 at 3:02 PM
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    We won't be frivolously de-ranking users who haven't OMM'd in a while. The only time the rank will be removed is if the user becomes inactive for an extended period of time. When I get back from Seattle on Friday evening, I'll go over the entire list of OMM's and those who haven't been active in 3+ months will have their ranks removed pending return. Not exactly sure what I'll make them do prior to them receiving their ranks again, but it definitely won't just be handed back to them.

    Also want to add, that I just did an activity check about a month ago via PM, and everyone replied. I'll look into this more in depth when I have the time.
     
  11. Unread #26 - Nov 28, 2012 at 3:06 PM
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    I don't OMM because I choose not to, too risky anymore and time consuming for me to bother with it tbh.
     
  13. Unread #27 - Nov 28, 2012 at 3:09 PM
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    Also in regards to resets during MM's/OMM's. I'll lay out the terms right now.

    If a reset occurs during a MM/OMM, the MM/OMM is liable for the amount reset UNLESS:

    A) Both buyer and seller agree that the MM/OMM is not liable for the funds in the event of a reset

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    B) MM/OMM MUST have proof of the reset (Video proof is the only thing I'll consider)
     
  15. Unread #28 - Nov 28, 2012 at 3:16 PM
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    Just checked on the activity of all the OMM's - There's one at risk for rank removal due to inactivity, but the rest have been active within the last couple days at most.

    There is no limit to the number of OMM's we can have, so as Nick previously stated, there's no need to remove ranks of those not actively MMing as long as they're actively using sythe as they've earned the rank and don't deserve to have their rank removed due to inactivity.
     
  17. Unread #29 - Nov 28, 2012 at 6:29 PM
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    i understand and agree with you on some parts however. I disagree with taking their OMM rank away. Come on man they earned that title. It's theirs till they scam ect... We could use some new OMM's tho. Bsgp and tbt would be great.
     
  19. Unread #30 - Nov 28, 2012 at 8:14 PM
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    This. Also, look at it this way: Just because a person earns a degree in college and decides to work at McDonalds doesn't mean their title should be rescinded.... It's their choice whether to utilize what they earned or not. Same goes for OMM
     
  21. Unread #31 - Nov 28, 2012 at 9:16 PM
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    Wisely put.

    I think N4N0 made his case on the matter, however. I'm sure if we needed any OMMs deranked, staff would notice it before the community would & they'd do something about it.
     
  23. Unread #32 - Nov 28, 2012 at 9:51 PM
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    Then why have the OMM TITLE : Which is the point were talking about. ?
     
  25. Unread #33 - Nov 28, 2012 at 11:44 PM
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    Not entirely sure where you got my last activity date from since it's off by nearly half a year.

    That being said, I'm inactive during the school year (Undergraduate Senior) and I OMM when I can during breaks if I have the time. True that I may not be as active as other OMM's/MM's but I pitch in where I can.

    I'm sure the others have good reasons as to why they're inactive as well.
     
  27. Unread #34 - Nov 28, 2012 at 11:45 PM
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    Syed should get his OMM back since he's been restituted.

    Pretty much this, I don't see why their rank should be removed.
     
  29. Unread #35 - Nov 28, 2012 at 11:54 PM
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    I don't think the ranks should be removed but I do think it should say something like inactive so people that were actually looking for official middlemen wont have to constsntly wait for replies from people who haven't been on for 6 months or more just a statement
     
  31. Unread #36 - Nov 29, 2012 at 12:39 AM
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    Every OMM except one has been active in the last couple days, and I'm sure they check their PM's. You claiming that people have to wait for inactive omms to reply is absolute bs. Also, those who aren't actively omming are removed from the list of omm's until they are able to be active again.
     
  33. Unread #37 - Nov 29, 2012 at 12:55 AM
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    No N4 what I'm saying is they should just be more active there should be rules about them being active weekly this is a high volume site and I believe therefore cost for little more activity and I know for sure that a lot of people often have to wait days for middle men to respond and by then it's usually too late I'm just saying.
     
  35. Unread #38 - Nov 29, 2012 at 1:02 AM
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    I think I see what you're saying, but I have to disagree.

    From what I've seen people use regular middlemen for their trades as they are cheap/free, and the majority of the trades that occur are <$50 trades which nobody is going to use an OMM for. Those that want to use an OMM would, in my experience, contact the OMM and wait for a reply - whether it takes days or not - as they want the OMM there. Most if not all other circumstances are just scams/sketchy traders.

    OT: I thought Nicks/someone elses program was already in place for OMM activity. And n4n0 did send out a PM a while ago to which he has already said people have replied to in an orderly time. By the way, as a side note, in my opinion just because someone doesn't bump up their thread doesn't mean theyre not available.
     
  37. Unread #39 - Nov 29, 2012 at 1:16 AM
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    Well I guess everything was explain I rest my case but I know by this thread being made middleman will be more active so it's cool.....

    Im glad that members got to voice there opinion and if anything is really wrong N4N0 2? Will rake care of it
     
  39. Unread #40 - Nov 29, 2012 at 5:44 PM
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    I earned it?
     
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