In regards to Runescape account sales

Sumpin · Oct 14, 2016

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Do you work for Jagex why you know so much about their recovery system?

I understand your point. Its not professional if he cant recover the account for the first person that he sold it to, however depending on how he built the account he may need some additional info about the account from the buyer in order to recover it. A quick example is; if he only used bonds to train the account and didnt link a card to it, and now the buyer has linked a card to the rs account. Jagex will take that into consideration and if he is not able to provide the correct details for the card i can see why they will easily deny the request.

Also reading the posts to that topic, he doesn't want to attach himself to the resell of that account. Once an account has been in the possession of numerous users for a long period of time, i am sure they will all have enough info to recover the account. Hence it will always fall back on the Original Owner to fix whatever problems might happen down the line.

The user said that his account was hacked; the truth we will never know. He could be lying, Phatalize could of recovered it which i doubt, or it could of genuinely of been hacked. Because of this complication already, the account shouldn't even be resold with this attached to it. That is probably Phatalize wants to distance himself from the account, but since he is the original owner its a fucked up situation....
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The reselling of the account is absolutely irrelevant to the scam report. It is common knowledge that Jagex will grant a recovery request if given the older/oldest legitimate info. Seeing how Phatalize is organized and a well-respected member of the marketplace I don't see him just 'losing' this information. It's complete bullshit. Whether he was hacked or not it is Phatalize responsibility to recover & secure possession of the account for the buyer.

If he is indeed the ORIGINAL owner then he should have absolutely no issue providing ISP information, province/state & country information, things that are SOLID proof that the account is surely his and most of all appealing FROM the said location assuming he hasn't moved since the creation of the account.

Seriously if you don't see the suspicion on Phatalize end you need to stop gargling this mans ballsack.

When you choose to give someone recovery information & it ends up not working MULTIPLE times in recovery efforts it is a clear sign that the given user should be issued a TwC.

DaltyF · Oct 25, 2016

TheLowRider1 said: ↑

seems legit
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holy cherrys · Oct 25, 2016

The stickies here have always made it clear to prospective buyers that accounts can always be recovered. Doesn't even matter if the seller is a "authorised account seller". I'm pretty sure one individual did in fact go on to recover multiple accounts after scam quitting.

And account being recovered is the least of your worries, since selling to someone in a different country to you almost always leads to a lock. Further panic recoveries by the buyer leads to a ban on the account for account selling.

So tbh it's in your best interests to buy an account from someone in the same country as you and if possible get personal info.

Felix · Oct 25, 2016

account sales have been and will stay risky, but i dont think they should be removed from sythe if thats what you're suggesting lmfao
btw if you wanna buy a maxed main hmu!

hattez · Oct 25, 2016

Next time just purchase from me and it'l be kosher.

hattez · Oct 25, 2016

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I'm going to point out some of the things I've observed through my time selling accounts here. It might seem nice to have a trusted/verified users list for accounts but that's not practical or feasible.

1. Everyone knows the risks of account buying. I get people messaging me to mm account trades and I just tell them no and to be careful because the seller can recover the account at any time. Every single reply is just "oh well I trust him blah blah we had a good skype talk". This brings me to my next observation.

2. Untrusted people have the nicest accounts. Some of the most sought after accounts, maxed 1 def pures, etc. are sold by people with absolutely no reputation. If you're looking for an account like that, 99 times out of 100 you're going to have to buy from someone with no rep.

3. Buyers very easily get hooked on accounts and then convince themselves the seller is trusted. Imagine you're new to the site and you're looking for a 1 defense pure. You're going to look in the section and of course you're going to look for people with higher trust levels. Very quickly you'll discover that they don't really exist for the account you want but that doesn't make you want the account any less. So you start looking at all of the untrusted people selling because those are your only options and you find an account that meets what you want. Now you're almost certainly going to get scammed but how else are you going to buy the account you want? People would rather "take a chance" and buy the account they want from someone with no rep than not buy the account at all because no seller is trusted.

Now it's terrible seeing people get scammed but we do have to give people the option to buy and sell freely. If we restrict the market to trusted sellers only, it's going to be quite the barren market. The plus side is that there would be next to no scams but as I've observed people are knowingly accepting the scam risks anyway. These are all conscientious decisions. As for the OP, wealth on the account that gets lost can't be proved at all and so to avoid buyers framing their sellers, the seller is just not liable for any wealth lost (more reason not to buy from untrusted people)
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Nerd I have a 1 def pure for sale and I aint no scammer =X

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