The Hypocrisy, False ideals, and Immoralities of the Bible of Christians

Note: I originally posted this on my Facebook, I see someone ripped it from there onto here before, but the thread is long lost and locked (I think?) and the original poster is banned for plagiary, thank goodness.

Source: http://www.facebook.com/#!/note.php?note_id=129832080402303

I will gladly add you and discuss this further with you on Facebook, if you'd like.


Christians, your God has apparently created a divine plan for the universe, all who inhabit it, and everything that will become of the universe, good, bad, right, and wrong, are foreseen by this God, and the intentions of such as so that we all lead ethical, healthy, "normal" lives, followed shortly thereafter, by eternal happiness, bliss, peace, and well-being. You also believe your god is the sign of perfection, and sovereign, and as a human, we have NO rights to judge, critique, or bring in to question, the plan of your almighty, divine, perfect God, Lord, and Savior. Anything we as humans find wrong, flawed, or inadequate to your God's plan, is apparently attributed to our imperfections as human-beings in the universe, and seen by your God as sinful, rebellious, anarchist beings...



Note: Everything you are about to read is in someway derived directly from the Bible, so don't try to say it isn't "true" (lol, irony.)



So, with all of that in your heads, I'll take this moment to remind you all what your God's "Divine plan" really is, and how contradictory, and lackluster it truly is.



"God's Divine Plan" (according to Christian beliefs)

-Arrange for something other than yourself to exist.

-Create a being, known as Lucifer, with full knowledge he/she will betray you, and cause an infinite amount of suffering, unnecessary pain, torture, and death.

-Allow an unfathomably horrific dimension come into existence, known as "Hell", created by yourself, or Lucifer, and allow that dimension to continue existing, and do nothing to destroy it -- that comes up later

-Create objective, unchanging, moral prescriptions, and base them on whatever your nature happens to be, and then label any action thought contrary to these standards, "sin" -Be sure to include edicts for social and psychological health, such as promotion of family violence (beating your children) (Proverbs 23:13-14, permission to buy and sell slaves(Leviticus 25:44-46), require that women have no authority over men, and have not the right to teach (Timothy 2:9-14), and lastly, to KILL anyone with interest in worshiping any other "god" (Deuteronomy 13:6-10).

-Design a physical universe with planets, earth, vegetation, and animals, all with the appearance of age, and be sure to include biological flaws, redundancies, and over-complications, that appear to have been caused by blind misobservations, which of course you created, such as a urinary tract the runs directly through a prostate gland, or you know, unnecessary rupturing of one's appendix..right?

-Create a garden, with a tree in it, bearing fruit, that when eaten, will grant infinite knowledge. Alongside this, create two cognitive beings, without any knowledge of the world, or the moral standards in this Divine Plan, and tell them not to eat from the tree that would enlighten them. This being said, in such a case, they would not comprehend that eating from the tree was wrong, until they already DID eat from the tree.

-Warn the same cognitive beings from the above passage, they will undoubtedly DIE if they eat from the tree, but don't kill them if they do eat from it - endow a reptile with some way of speaking to you, that will enable it to make a good case against one of the beings for eating from this tree.

-Now, make sure these cognitive beings have been given the proper tools for reproduction, to multiply themselves in a way, and due to the sins of eating from the tree - make sure that EVERY child birth for all eternity, will cause immense pains, and possible health risks. Alongside such, every child born thereafter, will, by default, be of sinful nature - without doing anything wrong in the first place. -Endow the cognitive beings from the above passages with a "Soul", which gives them thoughts, feelings, etc. etc., then allow the sinfulness of these beings to incompatible with your presence, so HELL can be the only place they can go after death, and do not stop this from happening.

-Over time, allow them to grow and spread across the Earth, until after so many generations, they have disappointed you enough, to KILL all of them in a global flood, and start over from scratch, yes?

-When this happens, make it where one small family, just like before, that you, God, have deemed righteous of serving you directly, even with the knowledge, and infallible certainty, they too will betray you, just like everyone else around you, therefore being punished and sent to hell for all eternity, but pretend you don't know that, and send them on their journey of life, anyway.

-Instruct them to populate the world again, by means of incest..

-The only way to rectify the disappointment and shames brought side-by-side with sin, is unnecessary, and brutal animal sacrifices, and alongside such, anyone who sins around you must be slain immediately for betraying you. -In the meantime, make yourself look good, by performing incredible miracles, for all to see, and oftentimes intervene with your physical creation. (Part the Red Sea, turn women into pillars of salt, stop the sun in the sky, turn water into wine, etc., etc., but before advancements in Science reach such that it is possible to record, study, playback, and gather information of these "miracles", just stop performing them altogether !!!

-Now realize your moral standards are not so obvious to the human race as you once thought they were - so now chisel your TOP TEN moral standards (leave out all the rest), into stone, and send them to the masses. Note: These "moral standards", yeah, over 50% of them will relate to pleasing you, worshiping you, and serving you.

-After thousands of years, impregnate one of your cognitive beings, so she shall give birth to your son, which in reality, is just you taking a physical form - and you are now your own father.

-Allow this son, who is also you, to grow up, and make many, many revisions to your moral standards, then arrange for other cognitive beings to torture and kill you..? Now take this opportunity to grant everyone else, for all eternity to be washed free of sinful nature...which you allowed them to have in the first place...>.>?

-Do not, however, make the rewards of this sacrifice free, in any way! Establish that no cognitive beings will be given the privileges of this sacrifice, unless they worship you, and actively believe the sacrifice occurred, otherwise, they are to be punished. In other words - despite any values, morals, intellectuality, bravery, courage, and other personality traits, if they didn't find sufficient proof of a grand sacrifice, thus not believing, they are to be damned to hell, to burn and be tortured, for all eternity.

-With the above passage in mind - be sure to make it unclear, and unknowable that the sacrifice did indeed occur, and be sure nobody after the first century gets to even witness the presence of your son, (which is you..), and make sure nobody can establish he/you were a living god - again, all of this BEFORE scientific advancements, allowing documentation, recording, and study of these events to be made, leaving no paper trail of your existence.

-Make sure the only trace of any of these events are documented anonymously via non-eyewitnesses, who speak the language of you/your son spoke, a long 30 years after these miracles took place, however, do make sure that it includes that believing in something without evidence or research is morally superior to that which denominates investigation, study, and research.

-Be sure that after decades, and decades of these events taking place, the only evidence of this existence are copies..of copies, of copies, which have been manipulated, and do not preserve the original copies of these documentations, and do not protect them from being revised, and changed upon hundreds, and hundreds, and hundreds of means, and following years.

-Do NOT employ your omniscience in a way to decipher whether people are truly rebelling against your moral code, and those who simply don't know, and cannot decide - punish them all equally, because they didn't believe what you offered.

-Do NOT make it clear to these beings that you are even here - just make it easily debatable proposition, and easily doubtable discernment.

-Punish those who have not correctly guessed which version of god, if any at all, were correct - despite their character traits, bravery, intellect, etc., etc. - damn them to Hell regardless, if they do not make the correct choice before their time on Earth is up (which, going without saying, you cause the end, or so you say)

-When all is over, demand you be praised for this divine plan.





What a moral, loving, just, great God he is, right? No. Rethink reality.

Discuss, debate with me, and I'll find a way to conquer your statements. I guarantee it.

 

all organized religion is bs.

 

Come back when you have a reasoned argument, I'm reporting your idiotic post.

 

Oh come on give this guy a simple break he's new and just giving his opinion on the matter.

Yes Christians see him as an almighty perfect being, thus anything he does that would contradict this would actually prove it.
He sets the standard for what is seen as perfect in the bible so his reasoning for doing an act that is considered unethical must be taken into consideration when deciding against his perfection.

The Christians atleast acknowledge the need for an end and a beginning so the need for this is obvious, something that is seen as good must have an opposite (Lucifer) and between those two there must be some conflict (Small conflict raging within the human conscious for all of time until the final confrontation)

It is a common human concept that everything has a start and a finish, religion should be no different.

Again just something you need to apply his reasoning for which you can't obviously do.



I'm not supporting this religion nor defending it but I'm simply showing that all your stating is obvious discrepancies that can easily be thrown out by not knowing god's thoughts and his process. Since we can't talk to god or read his mind then these must be assumed as to impossible for our minds to comprehend in the time frame of this world.

If you want to actually argue religion then you have to use an argument based more on the human level and bring out a more intelligent subject that can either be defended or can produce a contradictory statement.

Otherwise...this isn't in any form an argument or a discussion started it's just you stating different observational facts from the bible that can be interpreted any which way.

 

Militant Atheism or Militant any religion is never a good thing.

Why can't you let Christians believe what hey want ? Why do you feel like you have to point out flaws in their beliefs ?

 

Way to post this on Christmas the day Jesus was born, This can offend a lot of people, Including myself.

 

Because they're still flaws and obvious flaws should be seen. Even though different ones can be used these are still logically failed events in the bible.

He posted this before christmas, and so what if it offends you? It's his opinion on the reading of the bible and his own interpretation of them.

Your being offended, offends me.

 

What I find hilarious is how certain Christians do this when met with opposition to their beliefs;
"I am OFFENDED"
LOL FACEPALM/DESKHEAD?TOILETFACE ETC ETC

My response is...
so ****ing what?
My point IS NOT to offend you. It's to disprove you. If all you can do is tell me you're omggggggg so 'offended', then obviously i've succeeded.

 

This was like a month ago.........

and even though I don't agree with it, it logically makes sense to be offended when someone says something against there belief. Now while some take it too personal when they say it, moderation does work.

 

You obviously have no real understanding of theology or the Bible. Anyone can pull random quotes, but if you don't even know how they should be interpreted or what they mean, they're useless. If I have more time, I'll most likely come back and fully respond to some of your posts, however, I see very little point in doing so. If you actually understood what Christians do believe, you wouldn't have made half the statements you did, as they are indeed false.

 

You're actually entirely wrong. Most religions argument to immoral statements, obvious contradictions and hypocrisy is what you said; misinterpretation. They claim their interpretations are correct and throw in something as saying "You don't understand God's plan, no human will entirely understand it..." their reason being we cannot fully understand his perfection.
It isn't hard to understand what they believe as they themselves say what their beliefs are; but once we challenge their bible and interpretations its always God as an excuse for its holes. They usually can never hold a solid argument as in the end its always the "My faith in God [...]" or something along the lines that makes them strongly stand their beliefs then go on saying something we argued was offensive to them.

Its really funny as they themselves usually go on trying to show how "sinful" we are; which in reality is really an insult depending on how one sees it but you tell them what they said is offensive, well they usually start something up saying Lucifer this or the Devil that. This is obviously not a reference to arguments over religion on this forum, but actual arguments I've had with some Christians Ive discussed with.

It usually isn't hard to disprove the bible and many religions; I would understand why it would be offensive (Their entire beliefs on life was proven wrong), but whats surprising they usually insist on going on with it and rarely provide facts. Usually they refer to the bible and bad events in the past that prove the bible correct?

The truth is there are and were various flaws in the bible; it was edited and translated to fit their use at the times they were created. Usually they try making their sermons/speeches apply to their church people to increase belief and faith. To be honest what good is your faith and beliefs if its based on lies, misinterpretations, and hypocrisy? To strongly believe you are correct you are saying there are no misinterpretations through any Christians (which obviously there has to be some) and that any interpretation through any one else who doesn't believe in the religion is entirely misinterpreted because they don't understand God?

What bothers me is most religions go on saying their views are perfect and their God is perfection and they try spreading their beliefs but the moment you argue against them its a major offense and even worse when they're proven wrong.

 

'You're actually entirely wrong. Most religions argument to immoral statements, obvious contradictions and hypocrisy is what you said; misinterpretation. They claim their interpretations are correct and throw in something as saying "You don't understand God's plan, no human will entirely understand it..." their reason being we cannot fully understand his perfection.
It isn't hard to understand what they believe as they themselves say what their beliefs are; but once we challenge their bible and interpretations its always God as an excuse for its holes. They usually can never hold a solid argument as in the end its always the "My faith in God [...]" or something along the lines that makes them strongly stand their beliefs then go on saying something we argued was offensive to them. '
^ THIS is perfectly explained. Thumbs up bro (Y) cos I couldn't have said it any better