How was runescape made?

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How was runescape made?
  1. Unread #61 - Apr 7, 2008 at 5:54 PM
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    How was runescape made?

    Shut up.
     
  3. Unread #62 - Apr 7, 2008 at 9:25 PM
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    How was runescape made?

    Runescript is also on the Wikipedia list of programming languages. You'd also sound alot more intellegent if you didn't use the word noob so much, or at all...
     
  5. Unread #63 - Apr 7, 2008 at 10:57 PM
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    How was runescape made?

    Whilst i agree to most your statements i must clarify some of them are wrong.
    1. They do not use the built in Java 3D library.
    2. They do not use swing, the engine is completely build with high-level AWT-components to improve performance.
     
  7. Unread #64 - Apr 7, 2008 at 11:19 PM
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    However right you may or not be, watch your fucking language. If you want to post in these forums, learn some fucking respect. Stop flaming at every opportunity. What makes you think you're such a godly programmer? Don't get full of yourself, and stop insulting others.

    If you were such a "godly programmer" as you act to be, then you would have realized Ajax is NOT a language.

    Regardless of whether or not you think these people are "noobs", you need to know your place. Who the hell do you think you are, walking into these forums, talking like that?

    Have a bad day.
     
  9. Unread #65 - Apr 10, 2008 at 10:29 AM
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    How was runescape made?

    http://www.runescape.com/img/files/wallpaper_titan/Summoning4_800x600.jpg

    Logic.

    They made it to run in an applet in a web browser. As far as I know, the possibilities back in 2001 for games played in browsers weren't as good as today. Java was the best option for a game like Runescape. Plus, it runs on all platforms.

    Isn't Ajax a technique?

    That makes no sense. WoW updates far more often than every 2 years. A new expansion, yes, but new content has been added. Ahn'Qiraj?

    Read that again. Especially the part: "u're just a bunch of 13-16 year olds hoping to hit it big which will never happen if you don't even know the fucking basics of Java". Tell me what's wrong.


    I personally am no great, big programmer. I've never said so. But you aren't, and you claim so. I suggest getting a little bit more knowledge before being cocky about skills you don't have.


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  11. Unread #66 - Apr 10, 2008 at 2:21 PM
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    How was runescape made?

    Don't be a hypocrite, you give Americans a bad name. Okay, yes AJAX is not a language, I figured that with me flaunting all of my Java knowledge someone would overpass that, but apparently 13-16 year olds don't. So I'll be more specific THIS time : AJAX is : Advanced JavaScript Asynchronous XML. RuneScript was used in RSC. It is no longer used at all (if any).

    Also Jagex DOES use Swing, and any of you idiots who think they don't are pathetic. Again, I've enlighten the facts, Jagex wouldn't be using Java if it didn't have the portability to be platform independent AND be distributed equally, easily, and Write Once Run Anywhere motto by Sun.

    This means that 98% of the people who play RuneScape use a Windows platform. IF Jagex had any intentions of using their own developed programming language for RS2 it simply WOULDN'T work... And this is because porting from Java to another language SLOWS down the JVM. Yes Jagex does use Java 3D.

    I think that you people however, do not have any idea what you're talking about... Look, I'll get this straight for you... I'll even provide proof that Jagex uses Swing utilities just to make you noob ass wannabe programmers shut the fuck up...

    RuneScape.com > Development Diary > Audio Team - Music, Sound Effects and the Sound Bank

    Now if you're a Java programmer like me and actually know what Java consists of then you'd recognize that those are SWING components... HM...... Wow... owned...

    And like I've already stated. RuneScape couldn't be developed as fast as it is if Jagex didn't program in Java. And if they did layer another language over Java like I said RuneScape would lag horribly. Runescape however, is coded in Java, and I've decompiled their classes to find the source code.

    Also SCAR isn't a language, it's a bot, SCAR uses PASCAL as the programming language...

    Another, I've replicated the RS screen via Java, The buttons, the RS ScreenGraph and it runs JUST like RS at 33 FPS.

    A quick note... Jagex uses high compression techniques and LOW POLY graphics to make RuneScape, and don't forget the encryption.

    Once again, Java Guru... My ass... I'd be surprised if you had any idea what UML stands for... or what RMI is... etc.
     
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    How was runescape made?

    Oh my god... Jagex is NOT using the SWING library! Go through the client source code yourself, NO SWING COMPONENTS WHATSOEVER IS USED IN IT! And they DO use a custom engine that is very extendable/pluginable with it's custom scripting language. I know this for a fact, however, i'm not allowed to tell you why i know it.

    What the fuck? Language as a "Layer" over Java, are you retarded? The language is an actual implementation of the Java engine, it's not some fucking layer. The engine loads these scripts when the server is started, and from there it doesn't require anymore loading.
     
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    How was runescape made?

    SCAR is only based on Pascal. There is another language called Scar, but not what you were refering to.
     
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    How was runescape made?

    lala, this is coming for a VB programmer... You have no idea what you're talking about... I have proven evidence and you still continue to fight it, you're a total dumb ass. Look just to top it off with a sugar coating...

    http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/uiswing/components/slider.html

    Now compare that slider to Jagexs' program images. Also, dude you're a freaking noob programmer. You try to tell me how Java is ran and you have no idea what the hell you're talking about... Also... Did it maybe ever occur to you that you are wrong? Why I ask is because why would Jagex hire JAVA PROGRAMMERS REQUIRING GAME DESIGN EXPERIENCE IN JAVA WITH A PREFERENCE IN JAVA GRAPHICS DEGREE... OH I don't know... Maybe because THEY FUCKING PROGRAM IN JAVA maybe...? God you're a fucking noob programmer... Go back to your VB...
     
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    How was runescape made?

    That's not proof. It's a very possible possibility buy Speljohan disproved it.
     
  21. Unread #71 - Apr 11, 2008 at 2:54 AM
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    How was runescape made?

    Oh my good, you really are stupid are you? My rank is years old, i haven't touched VB in about 2 years. I've been programming Java for the last year, and i have created a fucking bot for runescape by modifying the client. I know very well how many of the clients technical parts work.

    Obviously they need to use Java in order to work with an abstracted language written in/using the Java syntax!

    I am pretty sure i am more proficient in the Java language than you are, so just shut up. Back up your statements before speaking out, imbecil.
     
  23. Unread #72 - Apr 11, 2008 at 3:35 AM
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    How was runescape made?

    That is the biggest load of bullshit I have ever seen in one post, not only are you wrong on just about all of your points, most of your statements don't even make sense. They don't even justify a response.
     
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    How was runescape made?

    This is the epicly sad embodiment of what today's society calls a "tool".

    Word of thumb: Thinking you're good will only make people hate you. Remember it.
     
  27. Unread #74 - Apr 11, 2008 at 11:36 AM
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    How was runescape made?

    You call me an imbecile when I have proven my statements when you still just prefer to insult and prove nothing.
     
  29. Unread #75 - Apr 11, 2008 at 11:50 AM
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    FUNNY, really funny, so have learned Java the correct way makes me a tool? Not programming in OOP makes me a tool? The funny thing is, 95% of you kvetching imbeciles don't even know what the hell OOP is. I can guarantee that morons use a priv server website and try to program in it. Which is incorrect. Although it is using Java, it is structured. Structured programming is NOT allowed in Java, it makes for messy CRAPPY code.

    And no, once again, spejohan or w/e. You have yet to know a single thing on what you're talking about. The same goes for moparisthebest, any person who at least took a BEGINNERS COURSE in game programming would know how all of this works. Not to mention the fact that checking the "Careers@Jagex" on Jagex.com proves that they CODE the damn game in JAVA and just encryptions provided by the SUN API. See, if you idiots had knowledge of the Java API you'd all realize that what Jagex does to the files.

    Also to say you've proven me wrong and you've proven ANYTHING to me... You're an idiot...

    I've proven:

    * That Jagex uses Java 3D EXTENDED API to produce RuneScape.
    * That Jagex uses 3DS to build their graphics and animations and IMPORT them to Java 3D
    * That Jagex uses SWING as the GUI of choice for RuneScape because it is LIGHTWEIGHT and MORE EFFECTIVE than AWT. Just because those fucking private servers use AWT doesn't mean Jagex does
    * That Jagex uses SWING

    The ONLY thing I'll give you guys is this, although this maybe a lot for you all, but here it goes:

    1) Yes Jagex does make their own software BUT
    2) The software is made WITH THE JAVA API
    3) For example, ALL the components I've shown for Jagexs' Audio team. That is OBVIOUSLY swing, if you have any knowledge of the Java API you'll quickly realize that Jagex Uses SWING to to layer over and make it EASIER to produce software to make it QUICKER to update runescape.
    4) Now for the big one of all big ones, when Jagex had added the development diary (RuneScape Content Team - Game Improvements) they had included a picture of the software used for developing graphics. The thing was the LOGO was the Java 3D logo. I was on RS at the time on my main account and when I seen the update, I logged out and went to read it, I seen the logo and it had the J3D logo as the app. Then 5 minutes later this picture was removed. WHY? Because they don't want anyone to replicate (or have any clue) how they make RS.

    Stop fucking arguing and take these FACTS in... Get your head of the RS Priv Serv scene and realize that JAGEX DOESN'T DEVELOP the FUCKING GAME LIKE A GOD DAMN PRIVATE SERVER YOU FUCKING IDIOTS.

    YOU REALLY THINK THAT JAGEX CODES THROUGH NOTEPAD AND COMPILES VIA CMD? NO THEY USE A FUCKING IDE! Chances are high they use Eclipse, JBuilder, or NetBeansEE... SO please, before you fucking go and tell me I'm wrong at least recognize that this is multi-billion dollar company and the methods used to make a private server from RS are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT you fuck idiots...

    Thank you...
    Have a nice day :)
     
  31. Unread #76 - Apr 11, 2008 at 12:13 PM
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    How was runescape made?

    You haven't proven shit. You have made statements, which Speljohan has denied and disproved. Also...

    "MechScape

    MechScape is the name of a sci-fi MMORPG allegedly being developed by Jagex. The CVs of current and former Jagex staff claim that Jagex has been working on a space MMORPG since at least April 2005[15][16]. Jagex is currently recruiting for Game Content Developers to "build creatures, shape virtual worlds, design quests and storylines for our new, undisclosed game", stating that an "anime, graphic novels and general sci-fi interest" is useful[17]. As of March 2008, Jagex has not made any official statements about whether or not they are working on MechScape, however they have said that a "new MMO" will go live in 2009[18]."

    Remember, if Jagex is looking for employees it might not always be for Runescape.

    And why is it that you whine about PServers here? Go to that Mopar site, this is a Java forum at a RS cheating forum. Sure, there might be server stuff here too, but go to "teh" server place if you want to give criticize their servers.
     
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    How was runescape made?

    I don't program in Java... (I have the rank though :D)

    Excuse me? Since when did all my posts reflect how American people are? I don't represent America in any way, nor do I plan on doing so.

    I see you know your acronyms. Google sure helps you a lot when you obviously know nothing of which you speak, huh?

    And I said before, watch your fucking language.
     
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    How was runescape made?

    They also say that the reqs for a web designer are to be
    but their sites aren't just HTML, CSS, and JavaScript now are they?

    This could possibly mean that they have their own program for designing graphics.
     
  37. Unread #79 - Apr 12, 2008 at 4:50 AM
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    How was runescape made?

    Your assumptions are invalid. Private servers is pathetic, i obviously know what OOP is, i use it in my programming for fuck sakes. I've written the code structure of an extendable MMORPG Engine with support for adding new things easily, how the hell can you tell me i do not know Java?

    If you even bothered to take a look in the runescape client source code, you would see there are no calls whatsoever to any swing components. For example, they use Component and not JComponent in the client. This is a pure fact, i've refactored parts of the rs client, and i have a BCEL-updater with 240 field transforms and 26 class transforms. Don't try to tell me i do not have a clue what i'm talking about.

    And obviously they write their stuff with the Java API, i never said they didn't. I'm just saying they don't use SWING components, because that's blatant bullshit.

    Yet another proof you are completely wrong about SWING. Runescape works on Microsoft Java which doesn't even have the SWING API. You my good sir is owned.
     
  39. Unread #80 - Apr 13, 2008 at 4:53 PM
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    How was runescape made?

    Actually they are. Once again they use AJAX. Also you should probably get the Firefox extension FireBug. It'll show you every last bit of code used on the RS site.

    Once again they don't. Just because you idiots have NO IDEA how things are done don't assume they use their own software... God you guys are fucking idiots...

    And don't tell me to clean up my language when you obviously don't know how to either you hypocrite.

    Now let me make this clear for you noobs. Jagex uses Java Cryptography to hide ALL of RS's objects etc. to hide the code all of it. It is a security extension off of Java to ENCRYPT these files so certain users (like yourselves) will not be able to use them... However if you can decrypt them you can...

    Also, I mention the Private Server scene because that is where 99% of your facts come from. All these facts you state are from 13-16 year olds who 'ASSUME' that this is how the Jagex does their design. WHEN ITS NOT. Take a college course and you'll see EXACTLY how they design RuneScape...

    Look what does JaGEX stand for? Java Gaming EXperts. Don't believe me check the site? Jagex has MASTERED the Java API and use it to develop RuneScape... Now, do you nooby programmers really expect them to make a whole new language and use it when there NAME basically has told you that they are the JAVA GAMING EXPERTS? Do you really expect them NOT to use the API of Java for RS? Do you really expect them to program like those shitty private server sites? NO THE FUCK NOT! They are professionals. They use OOD.

    Sure they have inhouse software. BUT they use the fucking Sun API to make that software.

    One more thing and I'm going to prove it just to get you all to shut the fuck up and give in...

    https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1843

    Take your little asses over to that website install that add-on and then use it on the main site... OMG it's Java Script... OHH NO! Maybe they fucking hire JavaScript Web Designers AND then ENCRYPT the website via LINUX?

    Now onto the other point... MAYBE THEY HIRE JAVA PROGRAMMERS FOR RUNESCAPE THEN USE JAVA CRYPTOGRAPHY TO ENCRYPT THE SOURCE FILES?! OMG... WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT?!

    http://java.sun.com/javase/technologies/security/

    Before any of you noobs reply to this... Please do me the favor and providing facts next time you try to prove me wrong...

    Thanks!
     
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