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Hillary wins (and McCain).

Not enough people are racist/sexist in the country to prevent either of them from winning.



It's done by a vote. If Edwards happens to win the vote, I don't think America will be accused of racism/sexism.



Edwards just doesn't have the support. I doubt he'll win.



To be honest, the popular opinion of Giuliani that I hear most is that he's a fear-monger. I saw one of his advertisements a few nights ago, and to see it, you'd think we're about to be attacked any day.


I think enough people are one or the other (I'm talking about a President/VP picture here).

Again, sorry I didn't clarify earlier. I'm talking about the actual election here (bigger picture). Obama and Hilary have Edwards beat on support by far. If my prior assumption is correct, the problem can't be solved by putting Edwards in for Clinton or Obama.

Exactly. He has little chance of getting enough support for a spot on the ticket. Hand forced for the Dems come the election.

You forget most people aren't too smart. Giuliani has the advantage of attracting moderates due to his generally Socially Liberal and Economically Conservative views. He has a actual shot of taking New York (Good number of Electoral votes) which traditionally goes left. Republicans will vote that way because they get half of what they want as President (and if McCain is VP on the ticket) then a socially right backing and the "age issue" becomes far less important.
 
What specifically makes Huckabee superior to other candidates?

He realizes that the war is a problem, and plans on doing something about it. Rather then just backing out like Hillary, and other Democratic candidates.

He is superior to other Republican war-supporters because unlike them, he realizes that Iraq is a mess, other than ignoring it.

Oh, and chuck Norris.
 
I think enough people are one or the other (I'm talking about a President/VP picture here).

I think that Bush has left people very hungry for change, so that over 50% of the population is not racist/sexist.

Gnomey said:
You forget most people aren't too smart. Giuliani has the advantage of attracting moderates due to his generally Socially Liberal and Economically Conservative views. He has a actual shot of taking New York (Good number of Electoral votes) which traditionally goes left. Republicans will vote that way because they get half of what they want as President (and if McCain is VP on the ticket) then a socially right backing and the "age issue" becomes far less important.

I just can't honestly see another Republican being voted into office with the current climate.

shakaka said:
He realizes that the war is a problem, and plans on doing something about it. Rather then just backing out like Hillary, and other Democratic candidates.

First, it isn't a war. It's sectarian violence that is generally improving.

Second, what can the military do? It's not a peacekeeping force.

Third, Chuck Norris sucks. He doesn't believe in evolution, and his show (Walker: Texas Ranger) keeps on slipping in right-wing messages (pro-death penalty, as I witnessed today).
 
Didnt hilary Only have 16% of the projected vote?
 
Right-winged people can't have one biased show?

I see WAY more liberal-biased shows, programs, etc.. than I do conservative.
 
Right-winged people can't have one biased show?

I see WAY more liberal-biased shows, programs, etc.. than I do conservative.

I don't like any biased shows. I don't consider myself an avowed liberal, or an avowed conservative. I consider myself a hey-politicians-cut-the-rhetoric-and-let-me-evaluate-your-logic-in-a-cold-hard-fashion kind of person.

However, you ignored my other points.
 
I am very moderate, i can see both sides ya know?
 
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I find Clinton to be extremely unlikable. Her fakeness is almost palpable - not exactly something you want in a politician. Her campaign of change is nothing but a mirror of what people want to hear. Obama, on the other hand, is an amazing candidate. A bit optimistic, maybe, but I'm sure he'd fall into things pretty quickly. The more I hear him speak, the more I like him; I think he could be the best thing that's happened to the country in a long time.

As for the others: Huckabee's a dumbass, and doesn't believe in evolution. Cain's decent, for a republican.
 
That's the problem with this country, a lot of people are complete retards, like you.
Because he thinks Obama's plans will lead to economic suicide, that means he's a racist?
GTFO, forever.

You sir, have no sence of value. I'm meaning to say that most wouldn't want an African-American as for a president simply because of different points in a debate? Half of this country isn't doesn't know what it's up against.

I personaly like Obama's plans better then any other and that doesn't mean that you come and start insulting me just because I have my own opinion?

You are a foolish individual thinking that you know more? Seems to be correct which shows that...

YOU NEED TO GTFO YOURSELF!!

Your the retarted one.
 
Obama is un-American. He won't even say the pledge
 
Oh? I thought he wouldn't even put his hand to his heart
 
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That was during a rendition of the Star Spangled Banner - not the pledge of allegiance. Of course, the story was changed to make it look more anti-American. Standing at attention is customary respect for the National Anthem.

Search You-Tube for the video, I'm sure there are a few.
 
You sir, have no sence of value. I'm meaning to say that most wouldn't want an African-American as for a president simply because of different points in a debate? Half of this country isn't doesn't know what it's up against.

I personaly like Obama's plans better then any other and that doesn't mean that you come and start insulting me just because I have my own opinion?

You are a foolish individual thinking that you know more? Seems to be correct which shows that...

YOU NEED TO GTFO YOURSELF!!

Your the retarted one.
-Your English makes me want to suffocate a baby.
-Practically every sentence you just made, with the exception of one or two, made absolutely no sense. And not just because of grammar/spelling. You're lucky I don't point out and ridicule every one.
-You missed the point. The point being that racism had absolutely nothing to do with his statement. You merely assumed and hinted that he was being a racist because he disagreed with Obama's economic plans.
-You're ugly, go away.
 
You sir, have no sence of value. I'm meaning to say that most wouldn't want an African-American as for a president simply because of different points in a debate? Half of this country isn't doesn't know what it's up against.

I personaly like Obama's plans better then any other and that doesn't mean that you come and start insulting me just because I have my own opinion?

You are a foolish individual thinking that you know more? Seems to be correct which shows that...

YOU NEED TO GTFO YOURSELF!!

Your the retarted one.

Ahh, nothing like jump-starting a weekend with combatting a little hippocracy. In your first moronic post you inferred that Obama can't be President just because he's not white. Cruel promptly filtered through your poor grammar, refuted your non-existant point, and then said what we all wish idiots like you would do, stop plaguing the conversation.

If your post came from nowhere, you're a fool. If your post was a response to what I said, you're a hardly literate imbecile. I said that MANY PEOPLE FEEL THAT WAY, not that I do. Don't come in here saying we're all too racist when nobody stated that.

Oh, and one more thing, it would be "You're the retarded one." (as in the contraction you are) not "Your the retarded one.", retard.

I am very moderate, i can see both sides ya know?

No, I guess all your worthless spam is keeping me from seeing the point you were going to make... oh wait, there wasn't one.

Oh? I thought he wouldn't even put his hand to his heart

When you're so busy getting a 100 post per day average rather than watching the news, posting irrelevant and idiotic comments is an extreme risk.

Are you being completely serious?

I have my serious doubts about McCain's mental and physical health. Let's face it: He's old.

Also, he supported the war in Iraq, and wants to keep troops there until AT LEAST 2013. Is that viable, given our current debt and economy? Hardly.

Basically, he's a token war veteran.

Agreed on this one. He has no right to be asking people about their religion effecting their ability to be president. If anything, we should be asking HIM how he can go around talking about his service to his chruch and then change gears to better America rather than his faith.

I doubt even you will argue that the man who holds the current record for oldest President was as the very least one of the greatest we've had in the last half century, if not beyond that.

You break it you buy it. We've already had some interesting on this elsewhere though. ;)

I think that Bush has left people very hungry for change, so that over 50% of the population is not racist/sexist.

I just can't honestly see another Republican being voted into office with the current climate.

First, it isn't a war. It's sectarian violence that is generally improving.

Second, what can the military do? It's not a peacekeeping force.

Third, Chuck Norris sucks. He doesn't believe in evolution, and his show (Walker: Texas Ranger) keeps on slipping in right-wing messages (pro-death penalty, as I witnessed today).

I never said anything about 50% of people being the one of the two. I'm saying it's enough people to turn those "close calls" in the election preditions away from the slight lead one or the other holds over Republicans.

If the elections were last year, maybe, but enough people seem to be getting over it for someone to go with the other party just because they aren't Republican (that and the Democratic Congress has screwed up more than enough too). Then again, I can't tell you how many dipshits (dipshits doesn't mean women, I know some men that are too) I've overheard stating they are/aren't going to vote for Clinton or Obama based on race/sex.

I'm going to cut the "generally improving" part of that out and make a scrapbook about it. Just when I abandoned hope of getting you to admit it...

It gives the media something to complain about other than Brittany and her baby.

The only people that watch that show are apperantly you two and old (already pro death penalty) men in senior homes, so it doesn't really matter.

I don't like any biased shows. I don't consider myself an avowed liberal, or an avowed conservative. I consider myself a hey-politicians-cut-the-rhetoric-and-let-me-evaluate-your-logic-in-a-cold-hard-fashion kind of person.

However, you ignored my other points.

No, McCain just gets the parenthesis spot (despite the fact that he had the better win margin) and what you're asking of the politicians in the latter part is against the laws of nature.

Your other points have been argued a bazillion (yes, a bazillion) times in other threads, maybe he was sparing us from a redundant off topic arguement? As you know by now, no such luck with me.
 
Gnomey said:
I doubt even you will argue that the man who holds the current record for oldest President was as the very least one of the greatest we've had in the last half century, if not beyond that.

True, but age isn't a cause of greatness.

Gnomey said:
You break it you buy it. We've already had some interesting on this elsewhere though. ;)

Actually, I agree with you on this one. I just think that they manner in which we rebuild Iraq should be altered just a tad.

Gnomey said:
I never said anything about 50% of people being the one of the two. I'm saying it's enough people to turn those "close calls" in the election preditions away from the slight lead one or the other holds over Republicans.

I see what you mean. Even today, I heard allegations about racism against Obama in New Hampshire.

Gnomey said:
I'm going to cut the "generally improving" part of that out and make a scrapbook about it. Just when I abandoned hope of getting you to admit it...

I never considered it a war. :(

Gnomey said:
what you're asking of the politicians in the latter part is against the laws of nature.

Sad, but true. I still want it though.

Gnomey said:
Your other points have been argued a bazillion (yes, a bazillion) times in other threads, maybe he was sparing us from a redundant off topic arguement? As you know by now, no such luck with me.

Lol, perhaps that is the case. :p
 
Firstly, McCain if he wins that'd be bad, simply because physically hes not looking to good, he actually looks rather ill, also when people get old and lets face it McCain is pretty old they start to make mistakes/errors, now when your running a country and you make a mistake, thats not gona go to well, especially if its an important decision, secondly Hilary i think she deserves to win and also i think she will win, shes experienced (Kindof) she'll do a better job than any of the other candidates i think.
 
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