Have people liable for Skypes they post on the MiddleMan section

From now on, having your Skype username in any of the following places will link it to your Sythe account, leaving you liable for anything that happens on it:
- On your profile
- In your signature
- Market thread OP's
- Same day posts/PMs

Okay, I dropped this problem the first thread was closed, but seeing how big of a cunt @Volta is being about I decided to open this.
Volta Hacker scammed me
The reason he wasn’t held responsible for the scam was that the Skype that was hacked wasn’t posted on any of these near the date of the scam. However, the Skype was listed on @Volta’s middleman thread a bit over a month after his Skype was hacked and the report was opened. My suggestion is to either
1. Add middleman forums to the list of places where you are liable to anything that happens to it.
2. Include it as a market thread.
My reasoning is middlemen can make a profit from these threads by charging a fee for their services, anybody can make a thread in this section and scams can occur there. None of these apply to the other sections of Market Tools except for the middleman section.
People could leave a different Skype on their middleman thread, wait some time and then bump that thread and scam with that Skype, claim it was hacked and not be held liable for the amount they scammed.

 

You gave no shits that your Skype was used to scam me, you were willing to take the ban without any hesitation before a ruling was made, you left your Skype available for over a month after the report was made and you changed your Skype name to hacked after the report was made instead of when you got hacked.
@Dunworry tagging you because I feel like you seem to disagree with the ruling.

 

I think saying a middleman thread isn’t in the market is playing semantics. If someone went to that thread to contact the middleman and saw the Skype on the first post, it’s reasonable for that person to assume it’s the true skype of the middleman. Especially since middleman handle money, oversee MARKET transactions, etc.

Now, if this Skype was posted on the first post of a personal support thread asking for someone to talk to, that’s a different approach.

If you’re hacked, you need to do your due diligence and make sure people are aware. If you can’t recover the Skype, you need to have it removed from every thread.

 

In which i added a suggestion they actually work on making a better UI for people to talk via Sythe instead of off-site so all scams/situations/trades are all done on site meaning ''You would never be getting done over by an imposter'' But i still see they don't bother with anybody's suggestions we just suggest for postcount i guess I support this though!

 

This. There shouldn’t be any loopholes for people to get out of being irresponsible.

 

It doesn’t seem like Volta intentially left his Skype there as if he knew this section wasn’t included in the rules. However that said the middleman sub section should be included in the rule as it’s an obvious loophole.

 

WUT.
The middleman forum is locked when you're DNT is it not? It's literally a market ban that includes a forum that's now being argued isn't part of the market? That makes no sense.

 

If someone posts that they are the owner of a certain Skype/Discord its logical that if the owner made a typo in the Skype/Discord address thats on him, not on a customer that eventually gets scammed because of the owner's fault.

 

Shouldn't really matter if you ask for a PM.

 

Agreed, even when people have a skype match in the market discussion section we ban for those matches.

 

This is true, however it’s possible that the Sythe could be hacked as well if they use the same password for both.

 

This is completely wrong. In every pardon I made I apologized to you for the incident and I even mentioned in my last one that I would be willing to put in effort to pay you back in some way, but I just don't have money laying around that I can pay you with because of your own mistakes. I have been sympathetic, I haven't made any rude comments and you're just going over the edge because I didn't know what to say to your comment in the spam forum.

Not to mention I changed my Skype title the moment I found out someone else was also on my account, which was still included in the screenshots in your report. I messaged Shin asking for a DNT while I figured things out, and my Sythe wasn't compromised and I thought I had it under control until I noticed that someone was still on my Skype afterward.

I'd also like to mention that I changed the Skype in my MM thread as soon as I could but I also requested DNT when this was going down , and I didn't edit it beforehand. My apologies on that one. AND I changed it on my Skype name when it happened.

I'd also like to clarify that the reason I've been staying mostly quiet during all of these posts is because I was not aware of the rule that resulted in me being unbanned and what this whole argument is over. I was not trying to find any loopholes, I was accepting my ban and when fairly recently I found out that I was no longer held accountable which was still after 5-6 months, I appealed.

 

This is a suggestion to fix the forums and loopholes not to attack you. Improving the forums is what we all want to achieve

 

I don't know if you're reading the same "suggestion" as I am but it seems like a giant post designed to attack me...

 

Sorry for being off-topic, I’d just like to address his with Volta since we can’t do it in pms. You can delete this if you need to as Volta’s initial post was deleted as well (by staff or himself idk). Please just delete the off-topic posts instead of closing the suggestion if need be.

1. In the two pardons I read you weren’t sympathetic to me. You felt that after the initial ban you were scammed out of your $300 donor rank so you recovered an account. Nowhere do you mention that you would be making an effort to repay me, because the ruling made you not accountable for the scam, and you feel like you aren’t responsible for what happened.

2. My mistake here, I thought about it and the hacker was most likely the person that changed it. The screenshots I took were after I contacted you and told you what happened so you changed it back.

3. I don’t see any DNT requests that happened in 2017 in the archive, correct me if I’m wrong.

4. I think that most people think that you didn’t leave your Skype there on purpose knowing you wouldn’t be held accountable as the case is rare and I think the rule was made when the report was resolved. However, this could be abused which is why I made this suggestion. I wasn’t planning on making it until I was suggested to by someone.

Also, yes I was attacking you by calling you a cunt, but I referenced you and the report a lot because it was the only scenario of this happening I could find, mostly because I was involved in it and I want my money. This entire suggestion isn’t going to declined just because I made this thread to get my money. It’s a problem that needs to be addressed. If I wanted to make a giant thread to attack you I’d make it in the Spam Forum or RAS.

 

I'd also like to apologize for being off-topic but this seems to be the only place that's somewhat relevant where we can discuss this.

@Teeto I read them over and I do realize now that my second apology wasn't in the initial pardon but one of the private ones I posted but wasn't accepted to be public. I'm sorry, but I did mention this in my initial pardon;

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Also I messaged Shin on my old Discord which turned into me PMing on here;
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Sorry for misunderstanding some of the points here. I just wanted to be clear that I never had the intention of using any "loopholes". I have always accepted my ban and if it were to be reinstated, I wouldn't cause a fuss.

 

Exactly. @video pleasw rethink this

 

I'll include middleman threads as market for this purpose moving forward but I do have to stress that everyone needs to be requesting pm's before trading regardless of the situation