Sythe.Org Supporting RareBot

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So I myself and many others have been posting about the hackings by RareBot. I have experienced being hacked by them myself and I KNOW it was RareBot there is no other excuse for my situation.

Just so others don't go off saying I've been phished or have a virus from another source I will explain my story;

I use many different programs for botting runescape, yes, it's true; but here is what happened and it will make sense if you READ THE ENTIRE THREAD. I use EpicBot and a VPS hosted by a source outside of the runescape/gaming community. EpicBot is trusted, and used by many people. I have been using EpicBot for a very long time and have never been hacked by them. I do not download junk and regularly scan my computer for virus's/malware. I have also been using my VPS service for years now and have never had any issues with them. So with that being said and HOPEFULLY understood clearly. I downloaded RareBot(nothing else has been downloaded to my computer relating to runescape, and I have not visited any websites that could contain malicious software. After downloaded RareBot I chose to be cautious and use the bot on one of my accounts which was a throwaway money maker. So yes, it was holding money and items worth a significant amount of money worth hacking. Used the bot for one night, came home from work and anything worth over 1m and immediately tradable was gone. Password the same, IP used was different from my own.

So, I posted a thread warning others to NOT use RareBot and if so, use throwaway accounts with very little on them. My thread was closed. I decided to message the mod who closed my thread and the conversation went, basically pic or it didn't happen. Also he believed I was making the thread for post count. Now honestly, I'm smart enough that if I even cared about post count I could make more useful posts/threads then that. Look at my join date, do you honestly think I give a flying flunk about my post count?

Then I went on to express that I will not trust this website as a soruce of trustworthy and useful information, his response and I quote "okay cool."

Seems to me that the staff and mods, do not care about the wellbeing of this community or the resourcfulness of the information shared here.

I believe that the bot(any bot) allowed to be shared by this website should be thouroughly reviewed and have the source code anylized by a good programmer before it is deemed as "legit." Prove to me the bot is legit, don't ask me a common person to prove to you, it is not legit. For there is no possible way for the average person to get the source code and review it for themselves. That is rediculous to ask of a person and shun them in the process.

I want to add for the mods, this is simply a disscussion to help me get a better understanding of what I am to expect from the worth of the information shared here. Not a cry for "i've been hacked help me" or i want post count so i'm going to make a useless thread. I made this thread so that myself and others in similar situations as I am can discuss this, and maybe find a solution.

I'd really like for the information here to be trustworthy and that is why I'm making this thread.

 

First of all I would like to say sorry that you have been given such a negative impression of this wonderful site based on your experiences so far. I hope that you will continue to come here and see how great this community is.

Now I understand that you are feeling very frustrated right now. It seems like you were genuinely trying to warn people of something, but got shut down. I am sure that the moderator was thinking "Oh great another kid whining about being hacked" which is unfortunate, but understandable. A lot of people come here and try to blame others for the negative things that have happened to them, such as being scammed or hacked, and in the case of hacking people usually have no proof of what actually happened. In your case it would be unfair to the creators of "Rarebot" to allow someone to accuse them of hacking without any proof. As you have said, we would want accurate and trustworthy information on this site, so how could we allow a thread without any proof besides your word to remain open?

HOWEVER, it does not excuse the specific staff member's handling of the situation. It would probably be best if you specified who the staff member was to make sure that it doesn't happen again. Our staff are here to help, and by the sounds of it that isn't what happened.

So in conclusion, I understand where you are coming from, and it is good that you wanted to help, but you have to understand where the staff is coming from when they close a thread such as yours.

 

I do understand the staffs point of view and frustration from the work they deal with at times. I realise that my word can't be trusted anymore then anyone elses and I would never expect any special treatment.

My main concern is that people will continue to have the same experience with RareBot as I did, until someone can prove the bot is safe. As I said, it's very difficult for the average person to provide any form of proof that, that was the source that hacked them. In fact, it's practically impossible. The ONLY way I could give significant enough proof to show that there is malicious code in their source code of their Java program is to get the source code, learn Java(completely) and thouroughly search for any malicious coding. By the time I do that, they will be out of business and long gone with thousands of players goods.

Players from this community, that trusted the source. I will not expose the staff member who chose to be neglectful of the fact that I was genuinly trying to warn people from using the bot. NOT blame the community, NOT gain post count and any other reason that may come accross anyones mind.

I know it would take a team and a few tools to be able to do this, but it would help the community A LOT. The idea is to prove the bot is safe before exposing it to the community in the first place. It would impove the safety of your community and it's members along with lowering the amount of posts/threads on the subject of hacking.

I really appreciate your help. If you have any suggestions for me, I'd be more then happy to hear them.

 

Well then my best suggestion for you right now would be to post in this section: http://sythe.org/forumdisplay.php?f=229 and state that you have a theory that a certain bot is malicious (you don't have to say the name), and that you need someone's help to find out if it really is. You are going to need to post as much proof as you possibly can, but that is the best way to get the job done.

 

Also, in no place does a Staff member say that RareBot is safe. It might be, it might not be, but it is not the Staff's business to worry about what programs one may choose to use. They cannot worry and make sure that nobody downloads a "bad" bot, they expect users to use common sense.

Also, having no proof is a perfectly acceptable reason for closing your thread. Even though your claims may very well be true, how is someone to know that you're not just accusing RareBot for your own personal gain? If the staff allowed everybody to have threads accusing others and other websites, how much would you want to bet that there would definitely be accusations that perfectly safe bots, like Simba, are malicious?

 

If we know a bot is bad we will get rid of the threads and warn users properly, anything beyond that is the users responsibility