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  1. Unread #1 - Dec 27, 2016 at 5:38 PM
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    Law/pre law degree decision Mods.

    Could we have mods on the community that are strictly only for reviewing evidence and figuring out situations of scams etc?

    Not mods without any education or experience in figuring out situations.

    People who've been scammed 100-1000 of dollars are losing to anti scammers because the opposer has the "word of winning."

    The replies are within 5-10 minutes that confirm that you lose.

    I suggest that you look at sythe members with a confirmed degree in pre law or law that's willing to take a few hours to look into something without a simple, you lose.

    What do we nerdy scapers know about dealing with scammers and issues? Besides letting the anti scammer win hundreds because of a simple "you lose" after 5 minutes, yet only looking at one persons case.
     
  3. Unread #2 - Dec 27, 2016 at 5:41 PM
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    Law/pre law degree decision Mods.

    There are already people who have been a part of, or are currently part of the staff team who have these credentials.
     
  5. Unread #3 - Dec 27, 2016 at 5:48 PM
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    Could you @ them for me? I would want to see some proof.
     
  7. Unread #4 - Dec 27, 2016 at 5:53 PM
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    Well for starters, you claim that people are losing because they have the "word of winning" against them. That is exactly how court works. Giving someone 10-15 minutes to reply would never work as people are on at different times here at Sythe.org. Coming from someone who has actually investigated hundreds of cases IRL and thousands here on Sythe I can tell you without a doubt that your idea would not be productive at all.
     
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    Idk if you've ever actually been involved with a court case, but it's not just he said she said. It's facts against facts, and that's the bottom line. Which is exactly how reports are handled here at Sythe.org
     
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    Law/pre law degree decision Mods.

    You can't expect someone with a law degree to want to explicitly spend their free time moderating an online forum and/or reviewing cases on said forum. If they come our way, sure, but?

    re: strictly only for reviewing evidence and figuring out situations of scams etc?
    >> Mods are supposed to review evidence and figure out situations of scams. We look at what you give us, I personally haven't seen an overly complicated case yet.

    Also, that's what disputes are for. Compile proofs while you trade and you'll be fine.

    Seems pointless.
     
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  13. Unread #7 - Dec 27, 2016 at 5:59 PM
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    Law/pre law degree decision Mods.

    Not trying to argue, as this is a suggestion thread. I am suggesting what should be considered an idea. There should be a symbol for them too.

    But thanks for your inpurt, @Lean
     
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    Law/pre law degree decision Mods.

    You don't think there's scapers with degrees in this subject? I could prove you wrong as of now. I'm pretty sure there some on this sythe thread too. Not asking them to be official lawyers, could be in the study.
     
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    She is not saying that, she is saying that people in the areas suggested would rarely be drawn to help moderate a blackmarket forum.
     
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    Law/pre law degree decision Mods.

    I'm sure there's Sythe users w/ degrees in law (or studying). But to expect a rl lawyer to spend time online to do what they do irl for $, but for free, seems a little silly imo. Like I said, if they come our way b/c they genuinely enjoy it, sure. I just can't imagine a situation where this would be something other than hypothetical. If someone with a law degree thinks they'd be an awesome mod due to what their education has given them, they can apply for mod just like anyone else and stick it in their app that, "hey, I have a degree that has taught me x y z."
     
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  21. Unread #11 - Dec 27, 2016 at 6:10 PM
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    Not to mention the fact that attorneys generally require a retainer fee of a few thousand dollars, plus a few hundred per hour. Being a moderator here at Sythe.org is completely voluntary and you don't get paid for it.
     
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    ^

    Sythe is not going to begin vetting moderators whom are also lawyers.. Reports are looked at on a factual basis and if a decision is made by a moderator that you do not agree with, pm the moderator, or ask for a second opinion.

    Many of our staff members are in school/completed school and our staff team is very competent and again, if you don't like a decision, ask for more input. There is always someone above someone else with Big Rich being at the top. If more people would trade with the slightest common sense, less people would be scammed.

    In summation: You do not need to be a lawyer to look at scam reports dealing with someone losing gp because they didn't take necessary precautions. Well, that, and this suggestion is not practical.

    I was going to close this, but I'll leave it open a little longer.. but this is not practical and is ridiculous given what Sythe deals in.
     
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  27. Unread #14 - Dec 27, 2016 at 6:50 PM
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    Law/pre law degree decision Mods.

    You talk about education yet cant seem to figure out the fact that if you take responsibility and liability for a name snipe then you're liable if the process goes wrong unless you can prove who sniped the name.


    First point - All moderators analyse evidence and lack of evidence in your case to figure out situations. When a case is complicated, opinions of other staff are asked for before reaching a verdict. Useless suggestion with no advantages.

    Second point - The irony.. What an educated statement to make.

    Third point - People who've been scammed any amount of dollars and lose the case is because they failed to take sufficient evidence which is their fault.

    Fourth point - refer to my response to your second point

    Fifth point - Several hours were spent on the report. In Law you have the prove the other person is guilty. Just like he proved you claimed liability in the case for the name being sniped.

    Final point - "you lose" after 5 minutes? again what an educated statement to make when several hours were put on the report.

    Even after the case was closed and you sent me a PM I asked you to show me evidence of your claims and you didn't. You replied saying you're done so I don't understand the purpose of your thread.
     
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    Like anyone with a law degree would be fucked to spend time dealing with a pair of teenagers whining about their fucking runescape display names
     
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    Close this shit, that's an order
     
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    Law/pre law degree decision Mods.

    Considering I've studied some law.

    Just going to point out... Sorry but I would not put any time of day to helping scammers or morons getting scammed on this site.

    Richard(sythe) is probably the only person who would apply rule law.. and malakadang. Otherwise mods do a fine job of dealing with cases as the rules state.
     
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    (For my full response see above, but yeah, not gonna happen and closed).
     
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