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  1. Unread #1 - Mar 5, 2023 at 12:59 AM
  2. OPD
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    Scammer's profile link:Exile | Sell & Trade Game Items | OSRS Gold | ELO (sythe.org)
    Amount scammed: 320 USD + 511m gp +800m gp
    Discord ID + Unique Discord ID: KAPPA3M#0001 Uid: 294371085779075072
    Proof that it's their Discord:

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    Explanation of the trade: Botting workers/Sniping customers/stealing accounts. Claimed to be helping us get started as we reached out when we were new for any advice on a few things he helped us out by letting us use his workers with no issues for a little bit then I got a worker to make 10 zulrah accounts 1 got banned day one 2 more got banned in the process of being built then another got banned right after they were done one got unbanned but Exile then said oh he did bot revs and knew he was a botter we knew nothing about this so then I paid the botter to be the bigger man, either way, I was done working with the botter. on to sniping customers, we had someone open a ticket to buy an account at the time exile had access to see our tickets so we are coming to a deal with this guy and he goes quiet and then within a few mins Exile sales(worth 160 USD) an account and we never hear a word from the customer again and in the screenshot provided we called him out on it and he says "Whats that have to do with anything". Stealing accounts. We bought some accounts for a farm we were running from exiled all accounts got banned including ones we bought from other sellers we got them all unbanned and the only ones we cant get the unlock email for is exiled accounts its strange because I have never had this problem before and I've been around a long time and these were personal accounts we got from him so if they were reverted back to creation email that would be Exiled emails and he provides no help to us but claims he's not getting the emails and we are not getting the emails so they have to be going to creation emails.


    How they scammed: Botting workers, Sniping customers, not unlocking accounts



    Other relevant trade screenshots:

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    Not denying worker was botting just saying not to work with him again

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    Admititing that the worker was indeed not vetted here saying he was only used twice and also admitting to sniping customer



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    Proof of payment to Botter



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    Proof of payment amount



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    Proof of Personal accounts that he had email access on




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    Proof of providing workers


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    Proof he sent the worker to make zulrah accounts and these are the accounts that were bottled and referenced in the report


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    Telling us not to take deposits and referencing botting and how he had that happen once and using context clues you can see he was saying his workers do not bot



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    him providing all workers that he would not let us take deposits



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    Trade for two SOTE accs



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    chats agreeing on a price and conformation of payment
     
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  3. Unread #2 - Mar 6, 2023 at 2:27 PM
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  5. Unread #3 - Mar 6, 2023 at 3:02 PM
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    Will be glad to respond to each and every section individually once i’m out of work tonight
     
  7. Unread #4 - Mar 6, 2023 at 3:17 PM
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    Please do you provided botting workers tos says no botting etc I was in no way responsible for paying dude but I did secondly you sniped customers even went as far as trying to snipe my partner saying I was stealing money with no proof even tho we have access to all accounts so he can see whats going on your workers scammed me botted accounts spammed my discord secondly stole a customer from my server and then I'm like 90% sure you are the reason we cant get accounts bought from you back accounts bought from other sellers no problem we got them back in mins but somehow we just don't get the unlock email on I think 5 accs total and all of the 5 we arent able to get back are the ones we got from you Clearly something weird going on there but I cant prove that so ill shy away from it for now so lets focus on the fact that your "Vetted and legit workers" have scammed me for accounts gotten account builds banned for botting and ran away with money paid to them for fund the accounts we were having made so yes please explain that away. as you said "Your Workers" so I'm pretty sure you would be responsible for these issues.
     
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  9. Unread #5 - Mar 6, 2023 at 4:01 PM
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    There's numerous concerns from @OPD here which I've asked him to revise the original post with proof to support the concerns as the initial post is a tad hard to follow. The concerns appear to be (per @OPD):

    1. Concerns that you (@Exile) took a customer from the server when you had access to the tickets. The customer in question was Shotty.
    @Exile, could you please provide discord chat logs of your sale with Shotty?

    2. Concerns with a worker (not Exile) who botted on an account (appears this would be between OPD & this worker that he hired -- not Exile -- however I have asked for any chat/terms of service between Exile/OPD/this worker to be posted here)

    3. Concerns with SOTE/CG accounts purchased from @Exile
    @OPD/@Exile please post TOS agreed on on this account deal & any chats surrounding this
     
  11. Unread #6 - Mar 6, 2023 at 4:41 PM
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    Updating now mostly updated
     
  13. Unread #7 - Mar 7, 2023 at 1:01 AM
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    @Kanye Just so everything is Properly approached, and not jumping to different topics i'll list below in order the requested concerns, and anything after these i'll gladly provide additional information that is requested.

    1. In No way i had any type of communication with such user named "Shotty" the user i was referring to was "Thecro" which I stated clearly to @Escanor23 in the Picture Below, and proof on my Vouched Thread. Where i state
    " What's that got to do with anything ? "
    was a response as to what does my wife being a detective have anything to do with what was being said? as if he tried to pose it as a threat.


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    2. I've used this worker twice, never had any issue with the accounts that were sold to me from the worker. Worker did in fact state that 2 out of 10 Accounts were banned. Worker kept contact with me since there was a language barrier between @OPD and Worker.

    -This was the initial offer of the work that was being done by this worker

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    - Proof worker sent of the accounts being banned

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    3. There is no individual TOS through DM that was given about the accounts except where i have listed in my server the following that they were clearly aware of when they joined at the time.

    -ToS of Exile Services

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    - Images of Trade Being done for x2 SOTE Accounts

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    Out of good faith i tried to assist in the recovery of the accounts, but i was unable to. I have for many other clients that have purchased before with no issue and proof.

    If there is any additional information that is at request i'll gladly provide. Thanks for your time.
     
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  15. Unread #8 - Mar 7, 2023 at 10:48 AM
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    to be fair we never denied botting on the bot accounts bought for sote I don't think that was disputed its more about its personal accounts you 100% can unlock them refuse to that being said they are unbanned and locked so I think its simple we get the accounts or a refund on that part of all of this
     
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  17. Unread #9 - Mar 7, 2023 at 1:54 PM
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    Thank you for providing all necessary information @OPD & @Exile

    Surrounding the concerns;

    1. Taking a customer from the server
    -- There's nothing to support this. The image below is the discussion surrounding an account sold & it appears the user wanted an account that Exile had.
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    2. A worker whom @Exile suggested had two accounts banned for botting. @OPD still paid for these accounts
    -- We cannot hold @Exile liable for the suggestion of a worker. It is ultimately on you as a provider to ensure you take the proper steps to vet/secure the workers you would like to utilize (this can be via testing periods/reviewing their feedback+vouches/holding deposits/etc). We also cannot hold @Exile liable that you chose to pay him for banned accounts. That dispute would be between you & the worker themselves.

    Which leads me to the last concern, 3.

    2X SOTE/CG accounts were purchased 02/05/2023 -- it does not appear any TOS were agreed upon with the proof shown (a TOS of a server was linked but these were done via direct PMs). Both users clearly discuss CG botting & it's reasonable to assume there is an understanding that these are used for botting. It appears the accounts were banned, quashed, & the account then locked due to it being quashed. @Exile is now having trouble recovering the accounts. @Exile would be responsible for recovering the 2X accounts to provide back to @OPD & if not would need to refund @OPD the full amount paid. Typically accounts would be deducted due to a blackmark placed on the account, however the accounts previously had black marks so it's not anything that would impact the price on these any further.

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    @Exile has agreed to the refund on the two accounts - either party please let me know once this is complete via Discord.

    Edit: 800M has been repaid.
     
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