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  1. Wonderland

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    "the more vouches"

    So you're telling me someone who sells bonds/memberships at lets say 100 vouches is more trusted than the user who buys and sells bulks of gp at 30 vouches? Do you get it now? It's the quality of the vouch that should be looked at, not the amount. You still didn't give me a reason as to why it should not be allowed.
     
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    Dunno man around 7 years ago I gave my account to someone and they got it down from 23.7/10 Blackmarks down to 9.8. Dunno how they did it, even some offences got permanently removed. Lol.
     
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    Not to *me*, but to a random newcomer that just joined yes, that would be his mentality.

    Also, I never stated it shouldn't be allowed. Don't take words out of my mouth I didn't state, I stated they shouldn't be able to ask/gain vouches from the services.

    What don't you get? I'm going to have to repeat myself again\
    >If one sells gp, thus one has to go first thus show a level of trust
    >If someone powerlevels for you, you're trusting him with your account
    >If someone sells you a bond for 07gp/paypal one of them must go first thus show some trust.
    >If one gets you a firecape, you're trusting him with your account
    >If one gets you a defender, you're trusting him with your items/account.
    >If one gets you a torso you're trusting him with your account/items
    >If someone quests for you, you're trusting him with your account/bank

    What trust is there given somebody a pre-written text to email to the game owners hoping that they will accept it? It's random luck, not showing trust as vouches are (again, verification that it was a successful transaction)


    You tell me, and don't give me any more bullshit excuses.
    You're replying without replying to my question/statement.
    Tell me, why one should be able to vouch for it.
     
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    I think you should reread my previous post where I stated the meaning of a vouch. Why are you getting so mad? There is a cloud above your head that isn't allowing you to process your thoughts precisely. Your supporting arguments are all dependent on the actions of what users "might" think.

    It should be allowed because a vouch is to confirm ones experience, in my case it would be my service. You are vouching the validity of the service, not the trustworthiness of the user. I've reiterated that many times already.
     
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    Again, your first paragraph is simply bullshit text that is completely irrelevant to my statement.

    "It should be allowed because a vouch is to confirm ones experience, in my case it would be my service. You are vouching the validity of the service, not the trustworthiness of the user. I've reiterated that many times already."
    How can you vouch for a valid service, when it's simply luck.

    You're stating I'm emphasising too much on what people think. Well newsflash, most new members aren't as smart as older members thus they get scammed easily. They don't care about quality vouches (your first excuse) and they don't care about . What newcomers might think, is actually a fact.

    you're stating that one should be able to vouch for a service that is completely dependant on luck and a pre-written email.

    no.
    I'm done with this thread since I've literally stated the same thing three times and you're yet to give a valid counter argument.
     
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    You're being aggressive and big-headed for no reason. Why do you neglect to read? I keep reiterating myself.

    It's the success of the service, me writing out the appeal form isn't the only thing I'm doing in this service. I said it was an idea I had and stated in the market discussion forum. If this gets approved, I won't make the thread right away. I'm still learning tactics to make the service that much more accurate.

    Do you fear that the service will be successful? If it's all luck, then why aren't people getting themselves un-banned?

    Do not come to me with the newcomer road apples. Newcomers are just as capable of understanding as any other person who has been on this site. Not being able to understand the difference between quantity and quality, is their problem, not mine.
     
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    So you're okay with tricking new comers who believe you're an extremely trusted member because you've over 100 vouches even though 1/4 of them were from actual trades? To me that's just shady. These vouches or "recommendations" should only be allowed in your service thread and not your vouch thread.
     
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    Tricking? Don't put words in my mouth. If you use that logic, users who do membership services with 200+ vouches are tricking users outside of the service.

    Vouches never establish trust. It is seen with the amount of users that scam quit with loads. It is a recommendation to the service, not the person. Everyone needs to understand that, because this is probably my 9th time saying this.
     
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    There's a huge difference between a membership service than an unbanning service, so yeah I can see how those vouches would count for something rather than having vouches for writing emails.
     
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    Your ignorance is overwhelming. What is the "huge" difference? It's essentially the same thing. You are applying a code to the account, while the user is logged in. You wouldn't be able to change the password or any other details of the account with the new security functions runescape provides.

    What trust does that provide? Exactly. Each trade depending on the card value is most likely $7-10 per trade. I make 18x times that in a week of work, with minimal hours.

    Each service is not the same. Don't compare each because that is silly.
     
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    The huge difference is one is an actual product, while the other offers false hope and is also free I might add. Also no one cares how much money you make, how that fits into what we're discussing I have no idea?
     
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    The huge difference is the product? A product can be classified as tangible or intangible. You should research before posting to avoid silly misconceptions. Just like you are comparing services, I am comparing the amount of money involved in the trade to show how little the impact is.
     
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    We all know an unban isn't permanently; you may unban it and get paid and then Jagex happens to keep the ban.
     
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    He is posting about "Free" unbanning services
     
  15. Wonderland

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    Did you read the title?

    Can everyone stop pming me, asking to unban your accounts? The service isn't up.
     
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    I do not believe in anything that is virtually smoke n mirrors of a false hope that an unban may occur, when in reality it is rare.
     
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    Whether or not the service has been succesful; the information that's been shared with the user is information that can be used against the user in future. Giving personal details away on the internet is an absolute no, putting a shinny ribbon around it offering too good ot be true "unbanning services" just seems like a mouse trap for people to fall into.

    I'm the most paranoid person in the world, and from what I understand this is my personal opinion, I have no idea who the OP is and wouldn't accuse him of taking part in such activities.

    I do however see a risk publically allowing such services to exist on Sythe.
     
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    Brings up a truely valid point.

    No support.
     
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    It's a free service.. Jesus christ, do I need to make that more relevant?

    What did I just read?.. I only need the ban reason and the date.. Did you read what was in my other thread?
     
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