Evolution or creation: how did human beings come about?

[♥Z♥]

I don't believe in god, and I believe in science and things that are logical. Evolution

 

[TheJCDaly]

I don't know really know, i have a hard time believing in evolution. Their are a couple things about evolution that makes very little sense. Like if humans evolved from apes (or any other species for that matter):
1. What makes the difference for that ape? Why was one ape evolved, yet another ape did not evolve. What made the difference.
2. Why are humans not evolving? Their are obvious conditions in today's society that we could evolve to help out the human society, yet no evidence of evolution has been recorded sense the beginning of mankind, dating back to cavemen.
3. Why are human being's different colors/races? We are the only animal that on this planet that has this trait. Dogs are different colors, but are different species. We are all homo homo sapiens, yet most humans look nothing alike. Most Lions/dogs/cats/any other animal that belongs to the same species look similar in some way, yet humans do not carry this trait. If we evolved, would we not all look similar? Like everything else?
4. Why are we the only animal on this earth that is intelligent, and by intelligent i mean the power to build/invent societies, yes animals communicate and yes they stay in "prides" or "schools", but i have never heard of a lion making an ipod :/. If we evolved from "apes" then why are apes nowhere near the brain functions as we are? Just because something walks like us does not mean we evolved from it. Why did apes not have houses or some kind of shelter, and why did they not communicate? This seems like a big "evolution" from eating bananas and beating on our chest to building pyramids and the internet.

Edit: Looking at this thread i see alot of "Evolution because creationism is ridiculous". You are merely basing opinions, if you are going to support evolutionism post why.. The arguements on this thread for evolution are just as bad as the creationism's arguements, because yall are supporting no facts either.

 

[Xeox]

I don't know really know, i have a hard time believing in evolution. Their are a couple things about evolution that makes very little sense. Like if humans evolved from apes (or any other species for that matter):
1. What makes the difference for that ape? Why was one ape evolved, yet another ape did not evolve. What made the difference.
2. Why are humans not evolving? Their are obvious conditions in today's society that we could evolve to help out the human society, yet no evidence of evolution has been recorded sense the beginning of mankind, dating back to cavemen.
3. Why are human being's different colors/races? We are the only animal that on this planet that has this trait. Dogs are different colors, but are different species. We are all homo homo sapiens, yet most humans look nothing alike. Most Lions/dogs/cats/any other animal that belongs to the same species look similar in some way, yet humans do not carry this trait. If we evolved, would we not all look similar? Like everything else?
4. Why are we the only animal on this earth that is intelligent, and by intelligent i mean the power to build/invent societies, yes animals communicate and yes they stay in "prides" or "schools", but i have never heard of a lion making an ipod :/. If we evolved from "apes" then why are apes nowhere near the brain functions as we are? Just because something walks like us does not mean we evolved from it. Why did apes not have houses or some kind of shelter, and why did they not communicate? This seems like a big "evolution" from eating bananas and beating on our chest to building pyramids and the internet.

Edit: Looking at this thread i see alot of "Evolution because creationism is ridiculous". You are merely basing opinions, if you are going to support evolutionism post why.. The arguements on this thread for evolution are just as bad as the creationism's arguements, because yall are supporting no facts either.

Awesome questions.

I PROPOSE A QUESTION: If we are to understand life and its beginnings, we must first find out what created the universe. People will say the Big Bang, but the Big Bang only explains what happened to our universe in its transformation from a "speck" to what we have today. How did that speck come into being? We may never know >.>

 

[Jimmy]

Awesome questions.

I PROPOSE A QUESTION: If we are to understand life and its beginnings, we must first find out what created the universe. People will say the Big Bang, but the Big Bang only explains what happened to our universe in its transformation from a "speck" to what we have today. How did that speck come into being? We may never know >.>

You're right, we may not. What relevance does this have to the discussion at hand?

 

[Ortho]

I don't know really know, i have a hard time believing in evolution. Their are a couple things about evolution that makes very little sense. Like if humans evolved from apes (or any other species for that matter):
1. What makes the difference for that ape? Why was one ape evolved, yet another ape did not evolve. What made the difference.
2. Why are humans not evolving? Their are obvious conditions in today's society that we could evolve to help out the human society, yet no evidence of evolution has been recorded sense the beginning of mankind, dating back to cavemen.
3. Why are human being's different colors/races? We are the only animal that on this planet that has this trait. Dogs are different colors, but are different species. We are all homo homo sapiens, yet most humans look nothing alike. Most Lions/dogs/cats/any other animal that belongs to the same species look similar in some way, yet humans do not carry this trait. If we evolved, would we not all look similar? Like everything else?
4. Why are we the only animal on this earth that is intelligent, and by intelligent i mean the power to build/invent societies, yes animals communicate and yes they stay in "prides" or "schools", but i have never heard of a lion making an ipod :/. If we evolved from "apes" then why are apes nowhere near the brain functions as we are? Just because something walks like us does not mean we evolved from it. Why did apes not have houses or some kind of shelter, and why did they not communicate? This seems like a big "evolution" from eating bananas and beating on our chest to building pyramids and the internet.

Edit: Looking at this thread i see alot of "Evolution because creationism is ridiculous". You are merely basing opinions, if you are going to support evolutionism post why.. The arguements on this thread for evolution are just as bad as the creationism's arguements, because yall are supporting no facts either.

1. We didn't evolve from apes. Both humans and apes evolved from a common ancestor. Apes and Humans have taken different paths due to mutations in DNA and different living conditions. Adaptation to change causes evolution to go faster. Perhaps one group of our ancestors took one path and another group stayed in the same spot. Also there is a mutation in our chromosomes that makes us different than apes. Many scientists believe this is the reason for such a drastic change.

2. What makes you say humans aren't evolving? Evolution takes place over millions of years. You will not notice this in your lifetime. You will find so many fossils that show human evolution if you just do a google search.

3. Humans look different because they've adapted to whichever place in the world they were living, through evolution. Dogs are all of the canis genus. I don't see why you say that all dogs look similar. Dogs come in an incredibly wide range of varieties. They actually can all be traced back to a group of wolves. They evolved quickly due to humans domesticating them by selectively breeding them for different traits.

4. All of this technology is relatively new compared to the ~4.7 billion years the earth has been here. Just 10s of thousands of years ago we were "cavemen". Animals and insects are way more complicated than you think and in a lot of ways have superior abilities to humans.

If I didn't answer something to your liking or forgot something, shoot me a specific question. There was just so much to write here that I had to be vague.

 

[TheJCDaly]

1. We didn't evolve from apes. Both humans and apes evolved from a common ancestor. Apes and Humans have taken different paths due to mutations in DNA and different living conditions. Adaptation to change causes evolution to go faster. Perhaps one group of our ancestors took one path and another group stayed in the same spot. Also there is a mutation in our chromosomes that makes us different than apes. Many scientists believe this is the reason for such a drastic change.

2. What makes you say humans aren't evolving? Evolution takes place over millions of years. You will not notice this in your lifetime. You will find so many fossils that show human evolution if you just do a google search.

3. Humans look different because they've adapted to whichever place in the world they were living, through evolution. Dogs are all of the canis genus. I don't see why you say that all dogs look similar. Dogs come in an incredibly wide range of varieties. They actually can all be traced back to a group of wolves. They evolved quickly due to humans domesticating them by selectively breeding them for different traits.

4. All of this technology is relatively new compared to the ~4.7 billion years the earth has been here. Just 10s of thousands of years ago we were "cavemen". Animals and insects are way more complicated than you think and in a lot of ways have superior abilities to humans.

If I didn't answer something to your liking or forgot something, shoot me a specific question. There was just so much to write here that I had to be vague.

1. Ok even if we didn't evolve from apes, still what made the difference in evolution? Whatever we evolved from, what made the difference in whatever we evolved from? You didn't answer this question.

2. Humans are evolving? How are we any different then cavemen that inhabited this earth in an earlier day? The only differences that can be posed are from the discovery of technology, not genetically.

3. All dogs do not look similar, however, these are different species of dogs. We classify all dogs as different species and dogs of the same species look similiar. We are all classified as the same species, wether we live in asia, africa, or the Americas, yet we share little to no similarities, even in the same country, most americans look nothing alike, just like most mexicans (no offence) look nothing alike, yet most other species look the same, why are we the only species of animal to have this trait?

4. I never said animals weren't smart, im just asking why are they not to the brain functions of humans. If you sit and tell me animals are smarter than humans, then this might not be the section of this forum you should be in. Humans have "thought" their way to the top of the food chain, nothing got us to the top of the food chain except our brains, we are not physically superior, we are mentally superior. Why are humans the only animal on this planet that can communicate to the point of building a whole society? A Society is a complicated thing if you look at it, alot has to be done, such as money, power, and creation of jobs, etc. How did this "step" in evolution occur? How did we go from Animals that hunted other animals for a living, to people who go to McDonald's when they are hungry? How can this be related to evolution?

Edit: Just looked at the evolution of "Humans". How can we get a distinct reading of a whole animal species off 1 skull cap, this is prevelant because this happens w 3 species that we are "evolved" from. How can you tell me this species is anything like a human based on 1 skull cap. :/ I just see to many holes in evolutionism. :/

 

[Ortho]

1. Ok even if we didn't evolve from apes, still what made the difference in evolution? Whatever we evolved from, what made the difference in whatever we evolved from? You didn't answer this question.

2. Humans are evolving? How are we any different then cavemen that inhabited this earth in an earlier day? The only differences that can be posed are from the discovery of technology, not genetically.

3. All dogs do not look similar, however, these are different species of dogs. We classify all dogs as different species and dogs of the same species look similiar. We are all classified as the same species, wether we live in asia, africa, or the Americas, yet we share little to no similarities, even in the same country, most americans look nothing alike, just like most mexicans (no offence) look nothing alike, yet most other species look the same, why are we the only species of animal to have this trait?

4. I never said animals weren't smart, im just asking why are they not to the brain functions of humans. If you sit and tell me animals are smarter than humans, then this might not be the section of this forum you should be in. Humans have "thought" their way to the top of the food chain, nothing got us to the top of the food chain except our brains, we are not physically superior, we are mentally superior. Why are humans the only animal on this planet that can communicate to the point of building a whole society? A Society is a complicated thing if you look at it, alot has to be done, such as money, power, and creation of jobs, etc. How did this "step" in evolution occur? How did we go from Animals that hunted other animals for a living, to people who go to McDonald's when they are hungry? How can this be related to evolution?

Edit: Just looked at the evolution of "Humans". How can we get a distinct reading of a whole animal species off 1 skull cap, this is prevelant because this happens w 3 species that we are "evolved" from. How can you tell me this species is anything like a human based on 1 skull cap. :/ I just see to many holes in evolutionism. :/

OK, is this a troll attempt? Pretty much every single sentence you just wrote just makes me want to slam my head against my desk because of how ignorant it is.
I want to know that I'm not COMPLETELY wasting my time with these questions before I reply.

Sorry, this post is pretty rude if you actually are being serious, but it's like trying to argue the existence of gravity to someone. It's very frustrating.

 

[TheJCDaly]

No, because every post you have posted that supports evolution has no facts, you are arguing that humans evolved "because of evolution" yet you are using no facts to support this argument. Then when asked questions, your only reply was "Because of Evolution" So i had to dumb it down so maybe you would respond with some facts, but instead you argue that the question is ignorant. You have posted no facts about evolution, yet you expect me to believe in your answers. So in other words, your posts are full of 100% ignorance.

 

[Jimmy]

1. Ok even if we didn't evolve from apes, still what made the difference in evolution? Whatever we evolved from, what made the difference in whatever we evolved from? You didn't answer this question.

Correction: we are apes and our ancestors in the past few million years have, too, been apes. Depending on the environment, natural selection can favor different traits, ultimately leading to the creation of new species.

2. Humans are evolving? How are we any different then cavemen that inhabited this earth in an earlier day? The only differences that can be posed are from the discovery of technology, not genetically.

Any difference from our ancestors who lived several thousand years ago will be subtle and, thus, not easily visible. I am curious as to what basis you have for dismissing the idea that we are still evolving.

3. All dogs do not look similar, however, these are different species of dogs. We classify all dogs as different species and dogs of the same species look similiar. We are all classified as the same species, wether we live in asia, africa, or the Americas, yet we share little to no similarities, even in the same country, most americans look nothing alike, just like most mexicans (no offence) look nothing alike, yet most other species look the same, why are we the only species of animal to have this trait?

You don't have the faintest idea what a species is. You would be wise to read a biology textbook rather than question a theory you don't understand on the internet. All dogs are of a single species, and the classification of a group as a species has nothing to do with its appearance.

4. I never said animals weren't smart, im just asking why are they not to the brain functions of humans. If you sit and tell me animals are smarter than humans, then this might not be the section of this forum you should be in. Humans have "thought" their way to the top of the food chain, nothing got us to the top of the food chain except our brains, we are not physically superior, we are mentally superior. Why are humans the only animal on this planet that can communicate to the point of building a whole society? A Society is a complicated thing if you look at it, alot has to be done, such as money, power, and creation of jobs, etc. How did this "step" in evolution occur? How did we go from Animals that hunted other animals for a living, to people who go to McDonald's when they are hungry? How can this be related to evolution?

They just didn't happen to evolve that way. Why are cheetahs so much faster than humans? Why are whales so much larger? The development of culture is an immense subject that is far beyond the scope is this discussion, but this has nothing to do with evolution, especially considering that you freely admit that we are genetically very similar to our ancestors of several thousand years.

Edit: Just looked at the evolution of "Humans". How can we get a distinct reading of a whole animal species off 1 skull cap, this is prevelant because this happens w 3 species that we are "evolved" from. How can you tell me this species is anything like a human based on 1 skull cap. :/ I just see to many holes in evolutionism. :/

The blind leading the blind.

 

Evolution as most aspects of how life began can be supported with rock solid evidence.

This^
If someone can prove that we magically popped up on earth out of nowhere than please do show me.

 

[PubStar Life]

Evolution enough is said about that.

To counter the creationist i have one statement to make, when reading the first few pages of genesis, there are two accounts of creation. One where god makes people out of the earth, and one where he makes them with his hands.

Now how can there be two accounts of the same creation ? Simply because genesis is based off two different accounts of creation and the stories are poorly blended.

 

[Jack Loii]

The two aren't exclusive if you actually approach both seriously.