EOC and its affect on Pures

[Aonor]

Okay so from rswiki.com I've heard that combat will be calculated by:

he formula for determining a player's combat level has been changed to be much simpler: it is x + defence + 2 , where x is a player's highest skill level among Attack, Strength, Magic, and Ranged. Consequently, players will start off at combat level 4, and the maximum combat level is 200. Constitution, Prayer, and Summoning levels no longer affect combat levels.

So, if HP, and prayer will not be affecting the combat of pure.. this allows what could be just a normal 40 attack, 70 str pure (just a low leveled example) to have 99 lifepoints, and it's combat unaffected, making it very dangerous with such high life points and a low combat level?
Also, prayer.. ^ A similar low leveled account could have 99 prayer, and it's enemy at the same level with the same melee stats, could have 1.

Which brings me to my next point; melee stats.
x is the highest amongst attack, strength, magic and ranged. which means, pures will no longer exist with lower attack than strength?
Example: F2p rune 2h/range pures should no longer exist. Say a player has 63 str, 60 range and 40 attack. This is not maximising their levels. With the EOC, they will be allowed to get 63 range/63 attack while still staying at the same combat.

In essence, a true maxed pure is born:
99 attack
99 strength
99 ranged
99 magic
99 prayer
99 constitution.


^ What are all your thoughts on the above and how do YOU think it will affect the EOC and pures alike?

 

Before anyone posts saying that Pures will be ruined by the EoC I want to point out the following.

Currently pures mostly just fight other pures. When EoC comes, yes mains will have a bit more of an advantage over pures, however pures hardly ever fight mains. Armour may be better but pures will still be 1 defense so it doesn't matter. Neither of the fighters would have an advantage so pures ARE NOT RUINED.

 

[Aonor]

Before anyone posts saying that Pures will be ruined by the EoC I want to point out the following.

Currently pures mostly just fight other pures. When EoC comes, yes mains will have a bit more of an advantage over pures, however pures hardly ever fight mains. Armour may be better but pures will still be 1 defense so it doesn't matter. Neither of the fighters would have an advantage so pures ARE NOT RUINED.

Yes, you're right pures certainly are not ruined. Infact, this will see the introduction of some new non-mainstream pures. The new combat level system should be fun to play around with to make some wicked combo's!

However, may I ask what your thoughts are on OP?

 

However, may I ask what your thoughts are on OP?

I think that we will see a vast increase in people doing Soul Wars to increase their HP without leveling combat. They could be a low level pker (like level 20 or something) and have 99 Constitution.

 

[Aonor]

I think that we will see a vast increase in people doing Soul Wars to increase their HP without leveling combat. They could be a low level pker (like level 20 or something) and have 99 Constitution.

Yessss my thoughts exactly. But it would take so many hours and money to make one of these (if you wanted to buy a bot for it).

So it could become a battle of the "Who's botted more" haha.

 

[High On Dmt]

I think most of the smart pures will just become rune pures in eoc.

 

[Aonor]

I think most of the smart pures will just become rune pures in eoc.

Meaning 40 defence? or 40 attack?
And why do you think this?

 

[High On Dmt]

Meaning 40 defence? or 40 attack?
And why do you think this?

Rune requires 50 def in beta but as far as a build goes rune pures seem to be the shit in EOC. They can use SS there isn’t much questing to do now that rfd gloves suck, they can get 99 attack without leveling and rune gives a very good hp boost. The only people that pose much of a threat to rune pures in eoc are barrows pures but there won’t be a lot of people willing to risk much at that level anyway.

 

[Aonor]

Rune requires 50 def in beta but as far as a build goes rune pures seem to be the shit in EOC. They can use SS there isn’t much questing to do now that rfd gloves suck, they can get 99 attack without leveling and rune gives a very good hp boost. The only people that pose much of a threat to rune pures in eoc are barrows pures but there won’t be a lot of people willing to risk much at that level anyway.

Hmm thankyou for your insight.
Now what about the likes of 1 def pures?

 

[RuneScapeJJ]

99 Constitution does not make you invicible.

With 55 magic you can already hit over 1600.
99 Constitution with pure gear is 1500 lifepoints max.

Can get one hit by just 55 magic already. Look at 1:17 in this vid from me where I tested some builds: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezLjLDFBiUU
That account was 60 defence 60 magic 60 constitution all other stats 1 I believe. Even more effective with 45 prayer and 15% def/mage boost.
At 1:32 you can see a 1 prayer 55 magic 80 hitpoints build.

Now for a pure with decent stats, let's say 80 attack/strength/range/mage and 99 constitution. That's 83 combat.

I could get 30 defence and 55 magic and fight that pure. Wearing mystic I would get a huge lifepoints boost already but my defence would still be pretty weak.

I think pures with high constitution will be quite popular in the <85 combat range. Above that you will get dominated by mains. Oh yeah, a pure with 55 magic and high hitpoints can also 1 hit mains at that combat lvl. One hit anyone basicly. 55 magic 99 hitpoints 45 prayer will be a very nice build. Maybe a bit of defence in there to survive. I'll make an account like that for sure.

 

[Aonor]

99 Constitution does not make you invicible.

With 55 magic you can already hit over 1600.
99 Constitution with pure gear is 1500 lifepoints max.

Can get one hit by just 55 magic already. Look at 1:17 in this vid from me where I tested some builds: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezLjLDFBiUU
That account was 60 defence 60 magic 60 constitution all other stats 1 I believe. Even more effective with 45 prayer and 15% def/mage boost.
At 1:32 you can see a 1 prayer 55 magic 80 hitpoints build.

Now for a pure with decent stats, let's say 80 attack/strength/range/mage and 99 constitution. That's 83 combat.

I could get 30 defence and 55 magic and fight that pure. Wearing mystic I would get a huge lifepoints boost already but my defence would still be pretty weak.

I think pures with high constitution will be quite popular in the <85 combat range. Above that you will get dominated by mains. Oh yeah, a pure with 55 magic and high hitpoints can also 1 hit mains at that combat lvl. One hit anyone basicly. 55 magic 99 hitpoints 45 prayer will be a very nice build. Maybe a bit of defence in there to survive. I'll make an account like that for sure.

Wow thanks for sharing that. I will be sure to levelling some mage on the pure im creating now!

 

[Nytrix]

Well, looks like i'll need to get prayer levels then.

However, I have a feeling that higher defense pkers will dominate pures.

 

[Super-natural]

In all honesty - Summoning is now not a multi-combat only system.

This means pures with 99 Summoning/99 Strength & attack can hit 4000+ Lifepoints in one tick quite often.

The maximum HP for other pures being around 2,000 on average means all pures can simply easily one hit eachother at ALL times.

In effect pures really are ruined - although its still always nice to skill on a pure.

 

[-Ryan]

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