Draft is inevitable if Iraq war continues?

I have read off a website about a draft for the war in Iraq. I'm not that type of person who believes everything in the media, but this made me think. I do not take credit for doing this, so I will quote it. The guy who wrote this was longer than what is shown, so I have summarized some of it/took out some things.

Someone has requested the url, so here it is: http://media.www.temple-news.com/me...Inevitable.If.Iraq.War.Continues-733915.shtml

What do you think?

 

The United States Army is falling apart, but it is not quite dead yet. It can certainly hold on in Iraq, and, since a Democratic candidate is likely to win the 2008 Presidential election (and all of the candidates that I know of have promised to withdraw from Iraq), the pressure on the Army is extremely likely to decrease.

Also, I don't feel that a draft will be necessary unless we decide to initiate a large military conflict in Iran. Yet, if the draft was reinstated, the average person would suddenly become much more aware of news and politics, and much more keen to avoid pointless wars. I think that the Bush administration would be removed from power, or action taken so that the draft would not be reinstated.

 

If we get a Democratic President, we won't have to worry about the Draft.

Please also give the link to the site you're quoting, I'm curious why they think woman will be drafted too.

 

I would tell you to wait and see, but you probably won't have the chance to wait and see, because the US will be outta there in time. Iraq is really pounding them.

 

Because *shock* woman are equal.

 

Not physically.

 

The war has been /phail ever since sudam hussane died, but we tried...

 

Then why are there woman in the military now? We've gotten over the whole "Woman are weaker so they can't be in the military" thing.

 

They fulfill the role of technicians, support, etc. They are currently not allowed to fly combat missions or serve as front-line troops.

And, women ARE physically weaker. On average, if a man and a woman struggle physically, the man will prevail.

 

There will be no draft in The U.S. for the rest of its existence. If a draft was incurred many people would flee the country, mass revolts would occur, and many assisnations of United states delegates would occur.

 

Bullshit. Bush has said many times he will not draft. Only time a draft will happen is if the democrats fuck the world up in 2008 and we end up needing crazy defense.

 

Yeah I agree with the people above, if we do indeed get a democratic president the stress on the US army would be relieved.

 

Ok.. I'm going to enlighten you on some current events. Being an active member of the U.S Army, I'll tell you somethings that you might like to know.

1) You don't know the current situation in Iraq. You see what you see online and what you see on the 10 o clock news. You see the worst things that happen there. You don't see the things we do, such as teach Iraqi children how to brush their teeth, teaching Iraqi's how to defend themselves against insurgents. Why? Because this doesn't sell newspapers or get good ratings.

2) I don't understand why you people think there will be a draft. There are currently over 1.3m active soldiers in the U.S Army alone. That's just the Army. This is JUST a volunteer army. NOBODY is forced to join the U.S Army.

Right now my unit is being deployed to Iraq shortly (Right after new years) and mainly we'll be working with the Iraqi government as a finalization process so we can successfully start withdrawing on a mass level.

 

It's not a war anymore, it's an 'occupation', as in all the U.S. is doing there is occupying turf.

 

Great. I'm sure they all appreciate their clean teeth. Isn't that worth the 750,000+ lives we destroyed in the invasion?

First, the entire army cannot be deployed at one time, for national security purposes. Second, to keep a constant presence of soldiers in the army, they need to be rotated. I believe the ideal scheme is done by threes: One third fighting, one third resting, and one third preparing to re-deploy. So, only about a third of the army can realistically be deployed. Third, the United States Army is falling apart. They're not meeting their monthly recruitment quotas, they are experiencing record desertation numbers, etc.

Haven't we been doing that from almost the very beginning? But wait, this time it's for real, right?

 

Much respect to Gringo he wasn't a pussy and actually joined the military (so he says). lik eveyrone else i think draft aint gonna happen.

 

Hillary Clinton is aganist the war and says she will withdraw. (But she also says she will build up forces in Iraq, and help strengthen the Iraq forces. She is going to send more soliders like BUSH...)

Yes they are now, and there is no way that a draft will ever take effect again with-out taking women as well. Thats the price to be equal isn't it lovely.

Thats hand to hand combat... In war i doubt there will be much man to woman or man to man combat anyway.

 

I never said there were 1.3m deployed. I said being active as in being a soldier, not going through the soldierization process.

As for what my unit actually does in Iraq, we go all over the country meeting with owners of banks, schools, police stations, local governments, train them and give them good business relations with each other and fund them so they can stand on their own two feet and govern themselves.

Also, I don't know where you're getting your information on fatalities in Iraq, but it's far smaller than your number of 750,000+ people. Also, the confirmed number of US deaths is 3888 just to make it clear. I don't know where you all get half of your "information" but you act like we're actually fighting people. We don't go raiding home to home looking for insurgents, we don't go village to village pillaging everything we see. There is no "front line" and there is not an IED going off at every given moment.

Nothing makes me laugh more than civilians talking about Iraq.

 

It also holds true in terms of physical endurance, general muscle mass (which correlates to speed, etc.), etc.

And currently tied up. If another conflict arises, we would need to reinstate the draft, or reallocate our current soldiers.

The military is moderating economic issues? What on Earth...?

I wonder if you can back this up.

There was actually a fairly large study done last year that assessed the total amount of lives that were lost due to violence, generally poorer conditions, etc.

There are more people involved than the United States Army, you know.

Some of you do. As an example off the top of my head, in June of last year, there was a large U.S.-led airstrike against a base that killed the leader of Al-Qaeda in Iraq.

I don't seem to remember making that claim.

Nothing makes me more worried than the fierce patriotism of some.

 

I never once said I support why this country is in the war. I never once said I believe in my president. I'm just merely stating facts and doing it by an educated point of view.

All 1.3m of our soldiers are not tied up. Again, where do you get this bullshit?

I never said we were handling their economic issues. No. We do however make sure their schools, police, governments are all funded so they can operate on their own.

Next, you can't call those deaths war casualties. Poor conditions? It's a fucking developing country, there is going to be poor conditions no matter what way you slice it. Violence caused by their own citizens? That's murder, not a war casualty. The motives may have been because of this war, but that doesn't call it a war Casualty. All of those deaths were done by foreign soldiers and insurgents killing iraqi citizens.

As for that U.S. lead airstrike, that wasn't at an insurgent that was against a terrorist leader. Big difference going after a known person than just going on a random witch hunt for suspects.