Does belief in moral principles necessitate a belief in God?

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  1. Unread #1 - Oct 20, 2013 at 12:40 AM
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    Does belief in moral principles necessitate a belief in God?

    So the topic is the argument.

    Writing a Philosophy of Religion paper, need three good points as to why belief in moral principles does not necessitate a belief in God, and hitting a brick wall on the points I've attempted to discuss in my paper. The points need arguments for and against them. Was leaning towards turning this towards the legal perspective of punishment of lack of morality, and bringing up the Code of Hammurabi

    Throw some ideas my way!
     
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    Does belief in moral principles necessitate a belief in God?

    Two interesting points i have found. Not sure how use full they will be.







    Heres a couple links that might help you brainstorm some ideas as well.

    http://www.frame-poythress.org/do-we-need-god-to-be-moral/
    http://www.bethinking.org/right-wrong/advanced/can-moral-objectivism-do-without-god.htm
     
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    Does belief in moral principles necessitate a belief in God?

    Hey,

    Really appreciate it. Writing three ten to twelve page papers for different philosophy classes at the same time is making my brain have a meltdown. Will probably use the two 1800s philosophers as an example!
     
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    Does belief in moral principles necessitate a belief in God?

    Check out Kant and his Categorical Imperative
     
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    Does belief in moral principles necessitate a belief in God?

    Make sure to check out St. Thomas Aquinas and St. Augustine to be well versed in the counter arguments to your points, just in case it comes up.
     
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    Does belief in moral principles necessitate a belief in God?

    I'm personally of the opinion that morals don't necessarily have to equate to a belief in a higher power.

    Though the only 'laws' that require moral upholding are legal laws and religion ones, there can exist a mind set that prefers upholding certain morals without the fear of consequence of defiance. My own reason pertains to the physiology of the human experience; what you think and do, you mentally become and your body is directly affected. Regret, sadness, confusion, etc, all cause strain on both your body and your mind, and so to uphold the moral (for instance) that killing someone is wrong (in a sense that I do not wish to kill someone) is not related to my belief in a higher being or my not wanting to be caught (psh), but to the fact that I understand, to some extent, what your mind undergoes when you've collected enough hate to be able to take another life.

    As I'm sure there are other reasons for upholding certain characteristics of the self that are described in moral standing.

    Been up 30+ hours and can't really think much more than that at the moment, though I'm sure there's more I'd like to expand on when I'm mentally able.
     
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