Teleportation Achievable?

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Teleportation Achievable?
  1. Unread #1 - Jun 20, 2013 at 7:51 PM
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    Teleportation Achievable?

    Some people say it's not possible, since humans had a hard time breaking the sound barrier (speed of light thing was bullshit, my apologies :3 teleportation is moving an object without acceleration, so no speed or velocity is involved when teleporting, thanks to Sythe for making me realize this)

    Wrong.

    Teleportation is the transfer of matter from one point to another without traversing the physical space between them. [from wiki] It does not involve any speed of the matter since we're not traversing the physical space between them.

    Is it even possible?

    I think so.

    After doing a little bit of research I believe humans are able to achieve teleportation in a long-term scale. In 1993 a physicist was said to succeed in teleporting an object, however that object would be destroyed after. He was able to do so using quantum entanglement and "teleported" one of the elementary particles, photon.

    Please share your thoughts here and correct my mistakes.

    More to be added.

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    Speed is one thing, but there might be many other ways to travel in space, like curving the space time canvas, which could be theoretically possible according to astrophysicists, and would allow to create "short-cuts" in space... possibilities are probably infinite, but species like us that made their first steps in space about 50 years ago couldn't understand these.
     
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    Teleportation Achievable?

    You talk about Teleportation & time manipulation as if they are the same.


    The "Teleportation" that was achieved was done via-quantum entanglement. It was not teleportation quantum entanglement. There was another experiment scientists claimed they moved an object faster then light as well yet what they really did was make the object reach a destination before the light did (not moving faster) not nearly as impressive as having an object with mass travel the speed of light.


    Going faster then the speed of light is not possible for particles with mass. Another thing even if you were going as fast as the speed of light time slows down to your perception so you are not traveling the speed of light to anyone your time is just slower.


    So if somehow it were possible to travel faster then light what would really happen is say maybe 2 days for you is 4 days for us its not really time warping
     
  5. Unread #3 - Jun 21, 2013 at 2:14 AM
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    Teleportation Achievable?

    Teleportation would require an object changing locations without actually moving. The only way I could imagine this happening is if everything around the object shifted in one direction, while the object shifted in the opposing direction. But, I would assume that this in some way violates the law that the speed of light is constant no matter what.
     
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    Teleportation Achievable?

    Here's a thought, if we had molecular constructors that could destroy the original you and then recreate it at the other side. Would it still be the same person on the other side? Or would it be an entirely new person just made from the same genetic stuff as you were.
     
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    Teleportation Achievable?

    Hhmmm I read somewhere on the net that scientists managed to teleport an atom. I'll have to find the link when I get back from work :p
     
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    Teleportation Achievable?

    I've always wondered this, but why does the item/human have to be destroyed? Why does everyone assume that to achieve teleportation the atoms/molecules need to be destroyed and recreated?

    I may be wrong, but surely 1000 years down the line someone could think of another plausible way to create teleportation without the risks of "destroying" things.
     
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    Teleportation Achievable?

    This sounds like a good idea, but I assume it would be impossible to do it to anything genetic. I assume to recreate it, the atomic material and/or the 'blueprints' for the reconstruction would have to be sent to the new location, which would still be restricted by the speed of light (not that that isn't fast enough)

    How could they measure that, or be able to confirm that the atom was the same one as the one they 'teleported'?
     
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    Teleportation Achievable?

    Well I can't say unless I find the link, but I assuming they created 2 vacuums, 1 with an atom in and 1 without.
    To decipher wether or not it's the same atom they could have marked the arp somehow.

    Can't really say that's what they did though until I get the link later :p
     
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    Teleportation Achievable?

    Yes, I am aware of quantum entanglement. What I typed was wrong lol sorry. My typing was different then what I had in mind.

    The scientists teleported the Photon particle using quantum entanglement, however it was destroyed. For Chloe, they get destroyed since that's how it should be as it is using quantum entanglement. The matter teleported is to be destroyed after the teleportation (or from what I've heard a change in shape or the removal of the part of a particle, however i consider this to be highly unlikely due to the fact that there are no known particles smaller)

    EDIT: Photon's were known to travel at the speed of light. But they're massless so depending on their frequency and some fundamental forces, they should be a little bit slower right?
     
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    Teleportation Achievable?

    Eep, I'm not very educated in this type of stuff but it interests me much like other subjects in this field like telekinesis.
    I'm having a hard time understanding, I just don't see how anything would be possible if item A had to be destroyed and then recreated at point B.
     
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    Teleportation Achievable?

    Quantum entanglement = when particles interact on contact and become separated.

    The photon particle was successfully teleported using quantum entanglement, causing it to be destroyed right after. I do not know why yet since I only learnt part of the basics lol.

    (omfg chloecat replied to me im so excited :embar: )
     
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    Teleportation Achievable?

    Its probably something due to existing in 2 locations at once possibly sending both into another universe (Multiverse theory has great credibility)

    There is a weird force in our universe things are not so random as we think and often some things only happen once they are observed.

    This is probably the most famous & simple physics problem.




    Quantum entanglement isn't really teleportation.
     
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    Teleportation Achievable?

    Is it just me or is that youtube link white?
     
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    Teleportation Achievable?

    Yes, for youtube embeds to work, you have to use the {YOUTUBE} (square brackets required) tags, and inside those you put http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hk-AQ4O5KiI the part after the ?v=
     
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    Teleportation Achievable?

    Fixed sorry other forums typically have whole URL however when you quoted me you coulda copied the URL anyways.

    Its the double slit experiment showing the observation effect. Its much easier to understand then Schrodinger's Cat.
     
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    Teleportation Achievable?

    I still don't understand what's up with that goddamn cat. I heard it since last year i never knew the real reason behind the paradox...

    Getting back to the teleportation topic, I don't see how the video relates to teleportation. But that was interesting, cheeky electron motherfuckers don't wanna get caught going in 2 holes.

    If electrons do that, how about the elementary particles... I'm interested seeing more but I don't want to get off-topic lol.

    (its 5am at my end been doing services all day for people forgive me if I made any mistakes with my statements and please do correct me)
     
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    Teleportation Achievable?

    The cat is in a box with a 50% chance of being alive or dead.
    The cat is neither alive or dead until someone observes it. Once it is observed it becomes one or the other.

    So it is alive or dead but not both, and once observed it becomes one.


    When 2 particles are entangled you make a change to one and it makes the change on the other the change is in 2 locations at once which only lasts a small fraction of a second but what if the particles doesn't disappear what if its just going into another universe due to being in 2 locations at once in ours its being observed so it has to chose where it is and some reason instead of just 1 disappearing both do maybe its just entering another universe.


    brb I'll draw a picture.


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    http://i.imgur.com/qGrC7qQ.png
     
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    ^Now I see why the Schrodinger's Cat is similar to the particles being shot through 2 slits.

    Whats with the cat in the Quantum Entanglement?
     
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    Its there because a fail pasting the cat twice with ms paint and not noticing till after I made it.

    But lets just say its observing the entangled particles.
     
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    Teleportation Achievable?

    i doubt its ever gonna be possible, except for in runescape
     
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