DNT Appeal

Link to/reason for TWC/DNT/Ban:
from this thread Twinz casino scam/fraud

Link to your vouches: None

Detailed description of the events that took place and why you disagree with the decision:

Reason for the ban was:
Misrepresentation by an upset host who lost 17b GAMBLING , in the server, of his own choice, and couldn't accept it.

The whole thing I think can be summarized from this line by lucky, found in the above thread.

Every time i found a decent way to make some money from the casino a few days later it always got changed so i wouldnt make money anymore.​

It's a casino. Every single game has house edge. It's designed to be fun to play, but he obviously has a gambling addiction if he thinks we make a game and then "change it" so he can't make money. Everything game is mathed out and simulated millions of times in order to a correct rtp , most games are 94-97% rtp.

Luckys exact wagering on every game comes out to 245 billion, with a loss of 17.3b.
(245,375,678,908 -17,378,746,053) / 245,375,678,908 x 100 gives 92.92% rtp
This shows a net loss of 17b coins over his whole time in the server GAMBLING, the primary reason he is upset. 92.92% whilst unlucky is within the margin or error of rtp (94-97% depending on the game), considering he was doing some huge dice duels vs me and lost. This is what sent him over the edge, he couldnt accept the loss to me in dice dueling. (raffle is incorrect here so it doesnt really count as it's not a "win" in the same sense of other games, but he could have possible won 0 raffles, it is not tracked, so i didnt change the calculation)





Here is a recent simulation I made this today for a new way to gamble if you win a jackpot, its intended to return (approx) the same value as the bet, so if you win a 500m jackpot you can cash it out or gamble it for less/more. All games are designed that like we never just make a game and hope it has a house edge on it. The outcome is 100.004%, which is in the desired range of 100%, its a choice game where you can cash out or gamble.




Theres no secret way to make money on a game that we secretly fix, like every other casino there are some people who can simply not accept a loss. Look at the reviews for any reputable gambling website in your local region. There are hundreds of people swearing it is rigged, but its just house edge. If you bet 100m on a game with 96% rtp the house makes 4m, it's that simple when large numbers are involved, obviously on an individual level you could lose it all, make 200m or 1b etc on the bet of 100m. But in the long run that's how it works.


Here is all time profits, crazy and baccarat are recent games and rps had a single huge win which skewed it, and is not that popular.




>?There is abundant proof that @Goldwyn/Twinz Casino and some of the ranks within engaged in malicious behavior through the use of alts in the server to artificially inflate activity levels, to gamble against lower ranked hosts, and to manipulate giveaways.




>to artificially inflate activity levels

I'm not really sure how this is relevant, every single bet in the server is a real bet, I used another account for multiple reasons, one because I enjoy the server and use a laptop to operate all my RWT dealings (its on a totally seperate ip connection using 5g), so my main accounts are at no risk and i dont have to login using a vpn. and i also dont want to swap between them and also the wagering ranks to next rank up are huge, it was fun to start again sometimes. hosts knew that account was me as I managed the discord sometimes using admin commands if there was something that needed fixing. here im asking lucky about something that happened with a host, an issue with his friend watching a stake that happened.



>to gamble against lower ranked hosts
that doesn't make sense, its a misunderstanding of how the server works, every bet is split up to a certain point. Example there are 5 hosts, they all choose to put money in the house pot, if they so wish, if they all put 100m in then its 500m total, and if someone won 25m, each host would lose 5m. Its a more complex than this as the higher the rank you are the more you can risk/lose in each bet (but because each game has a house edge its beneficial in the long run). Some months/weeks it can be less/more depending on the rank, for example if someone won a huge bet then higher ranks would take more of a impact. Below is a real example of a week where higher ranks lost more. the numbers are all different because it takes into account how much you have in your house , everyone has different rank and if you gamble in the server you dont gamble against your own housepot.

Mafu swipe twinz , sami and kazio all have the highest ranks and lost more than lower ranks (when you add both houses together), lucky was a host at this time he just did not have money in the housepot



>manipulate giveaways
No giveaways were manipulated, this is straight up wrong. Giveaways were done using 3rd party giveaway bots which we dont control (giveaway.boats currently i can't remember at the time if it was this one or another), ranks ,or any other accounts they had, didn't even enter these. There was weekly rewards for how much you bet, but once again every single bet placed is a real bet with real losses or wins against the collective house pot, regardless of who makes it. Sometime later we added a system to "link accounts" together so you would only appear on the leaderboard once per person, whilst still allowing people to enjoy having two accounts in the server.

I think I explained the lying and fabrications by lucky who has not quit the osrs scene altogether due to losing all his money on runestake , and getting his server banned for lack of moderation. There are hosts that are still in the server since near the beginning who are simply a host I don't really know them personally. It boils down the fact lucky lost a lot of money gambling in the server and couldn't accept it, he also lost money in the housepot and couldnt accept it. This is all despite the fact he solo won a 5b lottery, on his alternate account I might add, which he used to rank up/play on, by just getting really lucky (the lottery is setup in a way that multiple people can have the same winning ticket, lots of tickets were sold as it was a huge lottery it was very unlikely only 1 person won) . I didn't even know it was him until after he won.

Link to previous disputes: None

Anything else you wish to say: I hope you read the whole appeal & didn't skim over it, thank you if you did.