Disallow selling of accounts you do not own/have no information on

Terms of service are meant to protect a company/user from malicious customers- not to protect their shady business practices.

I personally would never sell someone an account if I thought it could be recovered.

If you wanted to provide a service you could middleman the trade and hold the funds for 30 days, but you are literally advertising the account in question.

 

Don't make me get @Kanye to do a disstrack on you.


On track though, still wouldn't agree with selling others accounts for them. I have had many people ask me if I can list for them etc, and i'm just not really interested in getting mixed up in that. Overall you're going to be refunding if it goes south.

 

30 day tos bro

 

100% support, it's gray area at the very least imo and the chances of something going wrong is definitely there. Reeks of shady business.

 

Most people when selling an account will say either 'i am the OO' or 'I am not the original owner'. Honestly after thinking it over I fully agree you shouldn't be able to sell an account that isn't yours to sell. Peanuts thread says 'im not the official owner' well what owner are you then, the unofficial owner ? You are not any kind of owner as it's not your account. This sort of thread and the ambiguity of the whole thing is malicious for buyers. No where does the thread say explicitly that it's not his account and just by saying he isn't the 'official owner' he is playing on established concepts of original and non original owners and asserting that he is some form of owner.

 

On top of all of this. Peanuts TOS says 20 days not 30 which is below the minimum required and it says that in case of a lock or recovery he will contact the 'original owner' it should say the current owner which is not him. And just claiming to be able to 'assist' with a recovery of an account that isn't yours that you don't have full access to should not be allowed because you can say you'll assist but how reliably can you assist a recovery of an account that isn't yours. That's deceptive cause I could try my best to help recover an account peanut sold you but I won't be much help and neither would he be since he has no ability to recover it since it isn't his. So at the very least his TOS is not enforceable if he makes claims such as being able to assist in recoveries for 30 days AS IS REQUIRED as it's obvious that he wouldn't actually be able to do this should it be required.

 

Spacegems is back and coming for blood

 

I'm not very active on Sythe and haven't been around forever. I generally just come across stuff like this when I'm bored and searching around the forums.

But surely this shouldn't be allowed? If this is allowed, then surely every big seller can just sell literally anyone's accounts, cover themselves and the buyer for 30 days by not paying out until that period is over, then the only person that will get screwed after those 30 days is the buyer?

The original owner will recover the account back (because why would they not? They're a nobody with literally nothing to lose), the trustworthy person gets his small commission on the sale and is protected by his ToS, and the buyer ends up completely out of pocket with nothing to show for his money - because the "trustworthy" users terms have expired?

What's to stop every high profile user from selling accounts that they know full well will likely be recovered? Please don't say morals, because if there is one thing I've learned in my couple of years here - it's that morals play a much smaller part in this community than you'd wish.

 

Ive sold a few accounts for IRL friends, i treat it like any account sale i do, i take full responsibility for the account. period. i don't see the issue, if account gets recovered who ever sold it to you should be held liable.

 

What @Delta Squad says, liability is key.
Shady tos to worm yourself out of any shouldnt be allowed.

 

Allowing people to sell accounts they don't own is just a recipe for disaster. I support this.

As an account seller if you're buying accounts and flipping them and have a 30 day TOS, you have that for a reason because you know it's likely going to be recovered sooner than later.

 

I can agree, this is a disaster. Something needs to change. At a minimum, if you resale, you need to have a history of where the account started and everyone who has owned at one point or another needs to have a Sythe account in clean standing.

Deni sold venny accounts and it was clear from the jump. I know many others doing the same with 2 month recovery protection and knowing the end result.

Look at the guy selling high level HCIM, Port or whatever the fuck his name is. Dude is clearly selling accounts with high recovery chance with low responsibility for himself. I'd bet my left nut that he eventually scams or someone he bought an account from recovers and he just says "ahhh outside of the 2 months". If you don't think that'll happen, you're a moron.. like moron on the level of buying accounts from these guys.

I can't imagine spending thousands of dollars on these accounts knowing you're eventually going to get bent over. Thats another level of stupid.

 

should of happened years ago, but people will lie about it regardless

 

Could this not be be prevented (partially) by having to disclose the actual owner?

At that point potential customers can decide of they wish to buy from "accountseller420" being "middlemanned" by the big name seller who holds funds for a month

 

That is litterary what acckings do (well bus369 got banned cus of his biased TOS at the time when he owned that site well that was one of the reasons) but on other side chicks is fine to run it they buy random accounts for dirt cheap and just add 30day warranty and even if account gets recovered they give you credit on their site and not actual money back (atleast thats how it was done in bus369 days pre sure they still have same tos)

Only difference between acckings and peanut case is that acckings buy random account and then resell it (so they take risk of getting account recovered before they resell it) and peanut just list it for someone else but in both cases they are selling non trusted accounts and hide under tos where they cant really lose.


Ofc its not exact same case but are exact same non trusted accounts and onlyone getting hit for their bank is buyer.

-either disallow selling accounts you are not oo of (wont happend i know)
-or simply enforce like 2 year warranty on accounts you are not OO of and lets see who will still risk their reputation for selling non trusted accounts

 

100% agree with the idea of non OO accounts requiring a 2 year warranty on them with a cash refund and not just the ability to give credit.

 

"There shouldn't be a scenario where I can sell an account for others (that I do not personally own)"

Support.

 

If this is the case there are many people who sell accounts for “IRL friends” which some may be lying about but imo either way shouldn’t be allowed.

 

I have always found that shady, as even in other cases where they are selling for other people they will still say they are irl friends and such for the "safest" sale.