Dicing - should it be banned, or allowed?

[Lvl 75 Def]

Shouldn't be banned, simply don't dice with randoms you don't trust.

 

[Loner]

I think it's like anything else. You choose to gamble with someone you're not forced to. Gamble with people you trust only and if you don't trust them use a middleman it's not different then trading Runescape accounts just because they get recovered doesn't mean that we should stop trading them.

 

[Saadi]

I don't think Dicing should be banned, just don't gamble with randoms - only Trusted people. Simple as that!

 

[Raising Hope]

No. It's a fun game and gets people active so no I don't think it should be banned. I do though think there should be a 6 month wait from account creation and a minimum of 5 vouches before you can participate in dice games.

 

No. It's a fun game and gets people active so no I don't think it should be banned. I do though think there should be a 6 month wait from account creation and a minimum of 5 vouches before you can participate in dice games.

Not going to happen, should there be a 6 month wait before you're allowed to buy or sell gold?

 

[Raising Hope]

Not going to happen, should there be a 6 month wait before you're allowed to buy or sell gold?

Dicing and selling gold aren't the same thing so IMO you shouldn't compare the two. Joining a day ago and thread hunting for dice games doesn't show anyone any trust, therefore why are they allowed to participate? Some people forget to make their rules clear and get put on the spot when they don't want to roll when a newcomer accepts to their games. This is just to easy to scam people if a rule isn't instated to block out ban evaders. All I am saying is that it's dumb for people not to make their rules clear but sometimes we forget and they shouldn't be thrown under the bus especially if the bet was for 25 dollars or more.

Maybe someone can make a rule template for everyone to use if they wish to set up their own threads so this wouldn't happen. Oh well, that's just my thoughts.

 

Dicing and selling gold aren't the same thing so IMO you shouldn't compare the two. Joining a day ago and thread hunting for dice games doesn't show anyone any trust, therefore why are they allowed to participate?

For the same reason that someone who joined today is allowed to post that they're buying a partyhat in the market section or buy gold via paypal.

Some people forget to make their rules clear and get put on the spot when they don't want to roll when a newcomer accepts to their games.

Oh please, this is just like someone not bothering to get a PM, accepting paypal from someone new, or not educating themselves on safe trading habits. The best thing that we can do is have resources explaining safe habits, anything beyond that is out of of our control. The solution to this is something like making a recommended dicing format (aka you both fill out a form agreeing to the rules and acknowledging who you're dicing with and then both roll), not setting up arbitrary limits to who is allowed to participate.

This is just to easy to scam people if a rule isn't instated to block out ban evaders.

The same would have to go for the gold section then "scamming people in the gold section is easy so you have to have 400 posts to buy or sell gold"

It just doesn't make sense.

All I am saying is that it's dumb for people not to make their rules clear but sometimes we forget and they shouldn't be thrown under the bus especially if the bet was for 25 dollars or more.

No ones throwing anyone under the bus, if they get scammed its unfortunate but its their own damn fault.

Maybe someone can make a rule template for everyone to use if they wish to set up their own threads so this wouldn't happen.

Support

 

[ThenoisyJaguar]

I agree with adding a sub-section just for dicing. Have a moderator or two assigned to the section and keep rules in place. I see no point in banning something that brings more activity to the site.

How can you get too upset over getting scammed on a bet? Sure if you lost the other person would expect a payment, but when you win and the other trader doesn't pay up all you lose is a few keystrokes, a bit of stress, and a bit of luck. There is no profit in dicing, it's almost 50% even from what I've seen. Dice small for fun with people you trust, and avoid newcomers with 6 posts.

 

[candarin]

Firstly, remove it from the Donor lounge and grant it it's own subsection/section under sand box. Have it moderated, and have a quota bet system.

I.E, your first dice bet can be a max of $10, second $15 and so on. Could also apply time limitations to reach a second tier allocation and what not. Just spitting what comes to mind.

The only thing i'd like changed is having a dedicated section for dice games since atm the sandbox and donor lounge are being spammed with these.

Yeah this has been denied since it would "promote gambling" but would making a section called "Dice games" really be that much of a legal risk? I mean we already have a ton of threads related to gambling on the site so I don't see how this is too different.

You guys are forgetting some people are banned from the sandbox -_-.

 

[minifoot]

As many people before me have said you must treat dicing like its a normal trade on sythe, If you want to have PP bets obviously they can chargeback- so try and get trusted users to dice with using PP bets or only use rsgp and have a MM or the more trusted person hold the rsgp and pay the winner, very simple.

 

Why not just create a sticky thread to point out the dangers of gambling against other people and the possible scams/outcomes that can happen like there is in the account sales and gold sales section?

if there already is a sticky for this then ignore my post.

 

[-Ryan]

Leave it the way it is. Just be smart when dicing and don't do it with someone you don't trust.

 

[Tiger]

I have been looking at that section lately am myself a big dicer/staker hopefully when I get more trusted I can began to dice on the forums so I support for it to not be banned since I loving dicing

 

[kmjt]

It isn't a problem unless you make it one. Have a gambling problem? Get some self control. Someone scammed you? Use your judgement to determine whether you can trust someone enough to bet them.

 

[Add My Msn]

Middleman.

 

[Ray-GFX]

It should definitely be allowed; it brings in a lot of activity to the community. However, there should be a new system for dicing. The current one is absolutely messed up. Why? Because newcomers do bets, and if they win, they just take the money. If they lose, they take the ban and create a new account. This is exactly what's happening at the moment, and it's messed up. Perhaps you could make in order see the dicing sub-forum, you have to be register for at least a year or two. Just my two cents right here.

TL;DR: No, it shouldn't be banned, but a new system should be implemented.

 

[Pockets]

It seems to me like allowing dicing on the forums exposes Sythe to unneeded legal risk.

If it is to be kept, there should probably be a section or thread that it is impossible to delete posts from.

 

[dangelo]

If people exploiting the system starts to outweigh the legit dicer's, then yes, remove it.

For now, I would say keep it. I feel you posted this due to loosing a large sum of money yesterday. Sorry Jess.

 

[candarin]

If people exploiting the system starts to outweigh the legit dicer's, then yes, remove it.

For now, I would say keep it. I feel you posted this due to loosing a large sum of money yesterday. Sorry Jess.

Lol Jessica lost nothing compared to me :/. Anyway, we should still keep it. Just cause some people are losing a lot due to their decisionmaking, doesn't mean the people that can control their selves can't be able to play.

 

If people exploiting the system starts to outweigh the legit dicer's, then yes, remove it.

For now, I would say keep it. I feel you posted this due to loosing a large sum of money yesterday. Sorry Jess.

I made this post before I diced. I didn't want dicing because I know personally I would participate and I don't want too, but I can't help it. I just see dicing as a whole becoming a large problem. I could be wrong