[DENIED] Suggestion on TWCing People accused of scamming back-to-back-to-back over a short period.

Okay I'm writing this suggestion after thinking awhile on the subject, current standing is someone that is accused of scamming cannot receive a trade with caution without proof. For one standalone accusation I support this.

What I'm thinking is if someone received 3+ scamming accusations from people with different join dates/post dates over a short period of time it is highly likely that the user did infact scam and should be TWCed until proven that he did not perform said scams accusations.

I am writing this because last night "Person A" posted a thread of selling 850M, 45 minutes last 4 people accused him of scamming but never made a report. That user got those comments removed along with my comments of telling them to report him.

This morning "Person A" bumped his thread and scammed two more users, and it cost someone $150.
The rule on TWC should be tweaked in my opinion on high risked situations like that when multiple people are accusing someone of scamming over a short period.

If he was TWCed, it is highly unlikely the guy that was scammed by "Person A" this morning would of been scammed.

IF "PERSON A" received multiple scam attempts quickly atleast TWC until those accusing have time to post a valid report; its better for the communities safety.

Opinions?

 

Innocent until proven guilty supposedly, although sythe staff bend that if it fits their needs in certain cases.

Morally I agree with this as a business and user of this site.

Unfournately however as someone who has had over 15-20 scam reports tossed/overturned at a later date, a couple scam reports in a short period is entirely possible to be fabricated/lies, I've had ban evaders team up and file 2-3 reports at once before all attempting to frame me.

I know I personally am an outlier because most people don't have that problem, but for now I have to no support, sorry.

 

I understand this, that is why I said if the users all have different join dates, post numbers, donations and etc would make it highly unlikely it's the same person.

 

I support this. Most of the users that are accused of scamming have actually scammed or have the intention of it. I do think it would be difficult to check each of the separate accounts creation dates, IPs, and information. But I definitely think something need to be enforced to stop people from scamming as often. I do know of people that have pointed out red flags to mods/admins about people that were scamming/ban evading and nothing was done. Then despite the warning flags being risen already they had gone on to scam.

 

As divine said, could possibly be a thing, likely will not. Users aren't found guilty til the end verdict so you can't judge til the end sadly.. it would be a nice addition, but I doubt it will be added, so no support. Sorry

 

Correct, but people wait in jail until their guilty verdict comes in. I think this should be implemented because it treats scammers the same.

 

if the accusations have proof ofcorse it should be implemented and it is implemented, to submit a twc u need an input from a mod. Mods have the input on your thread when asked the person to cooperate, if he isnt very trusted, he will receive a twc.

Effectively: getting a twc or getting a twc after a mods reply - both require an input from a mod. If a mod would twc someone for many threads with sufficient proof, he might aswell tag him and twc him as he is doing so now lol. He only isnt doing that for people who obviously didnt scam, like for example, gold sites make tens of thousands a month, the biggest ones. if someone posts some thread for a 20-200$ scam...its not relevent to the profit they are making therefore mods will be biased that its either fake, a mistake, misunderstanding or an imposter.

 

No support because your vading.

and because if a user did scam more than 3 times, there would be enough proof from the scam reports already made if they were reported.

To warrant a ban

 

I fully understand this suggestion, but there would be many problems because of it.

Problems:
- Regardless of the time of accounts created, IP, locations, This would enable the possibility to frame an innocent user and a false TWC be given because of it.

We have a free trade system, therefore no TWC will be given unless they are grounds for it. At the end of the day it is the person that has been scammed's responsibility to make a report with the correct formats. I personally have PM'ed many users who say "X" person has scammed them, directing them in the right direction and the correct formats, to never get a reply from them. If they don't care they were scammed / or want to take the time to make a report, what really can you do?

This suggestion has been denied.