[Denied] Picture of proof for Home Ip.

Hi, I have noticed an inconsistency with a couple of Twc Disputes. My Concern is there is actually people who are not ban evading Being Twc and People who are actually ban evading who are getting away with it. I think if We added Picture of proof of your ISP Bill While appealing ure twc Or before actually being Twc'd, This would benefit and help mods pick out ban evaders.

Also there are people being Twc'd for a wireless Home Ip, A wireless Home Ip is still connected through to ure router i believe, And showing proof of your isp Bill might help clear it up a bit.

Not saying mods don't do a good job with this, I just personally feel there is a few to many inconsistent cases and not everyone is treated fairly.

Please leave ure feedback on this matter, I look forward to hear what everyone has to say. Although i have a feeling i will be slaughtered for writing this.



Please note this isn't for me I have no intentions of getting my twc removed as idc about trading on sythe (Have alot of haters), Please read this with an open mind and please don't flame.

 

haha, lol

 

Instead of just laughing, Please say something constructive. I do think it's a problem with sythe.

 

I don't see a problem with the current system. If a mistake was made, the TWC is removed. It doesn't hurt anyone.

Making everyone provide a bill/statement is unnecessary, and would drive new users away from the forum.

 

Not necessary, Being Twc'd would drive you a way from the forums As a routine check on new users, I've been told that every new users gets it (Not sure if this is true).

And i forgot to say, It would Avoid Cases like this.

TWC Dispute :(

Not saying he is a ban evader or not attacking him one bit just for the record, But Wortel Saying he is sure it's a proxy but it still is an Home Ip, This would of cleared the matter up the first day he joint if he had to submit a Bill.

And thank you for the feedback and being Respectful.

 

We have many young members who might not be able to provide a bill. We might have members who don't want to provide a bill due to privacy concerns. We have MANY members who wouldn't have joined the community if they had to provide a bill.

Current system works just fine.

Also faking a bill, or getting a bill from a friend etc. would be easy. Mods aren't experts in spotting fake documents. They're volunteers.

 

But your proposal is 10x more work than the current system. Not only for users, but also for mods.

 

Yes i see that would be true, But half the time When you get twc'd u r requested to show an ISP bill anyway. And no 90% of the sythe community are 18+, And what privacy concerns? Mod's ain't going to leak them as well they won't be mods anymore. I really don't understand how people won't join the community if they had to provide a isp bill, This would save mod's alot of time and stop mass ban evaders, Also getting a bill from a friend but has a Ip match with a banned account would still be seen as a ban evader.

Also 10x more work? How please explain, It is a photo and send to a mod. that won't be 10x more work, It will be safer for the sythe community and to protech more scams from happening.

Thank you for the feedback and being respectful.

 

Mods won't leak the documents:


Sure they might not. Someone else might. Many users are extremely cautious with their privacy. If their account gets hacked and the hacker can access the photos? Or if the image platform's account they uploaded the photo to gets hacked? Many take extreme measures to ensure their privacy. These people won't want to upload documents to a moderator of a gaming forum which disclose their identity. Especially if they are newer users, they might just as well not join.

On top of that, anyone can be corrupt. A Jagex employee recently was found to be corrupt, and he wasn't the first/last one.

I probably wouldn't have joined if I had to provide a bill. I would've had to ask my fiancee to find it, take photos upload it.. People are lazy. Even one more click in the registering process can deter some from joining. Why do you think many RSGP shops try not to ask for documents/phone calls but look for alternative security options even though fraud rates in the virtual good industry are insane?

And reviewing these bills in different languages, ensuring their authenticity and that they belong to the user.. It's a lot of work.

These bills also aren't uniform. They don't list the IP address either.

Currently ISP bills are used as the last measure. If an user can't post with their home IP or the home IP can't be verified to be a home IP (in rare cases. most of the cases it's just stupid scammers using a proxy as "home IP", who wouldn't provide a bill in any case.)

 

I get what you are saying, You are maken valid points. But there is benefits and negatives to all Suggestions. I disagree with the Gold sellers trying to go the other way from personal docs, Everytime i spend over 30$ I have to use ID *don't buy gp often*, This protechs the gold sellers fully. This method has been used and is very successful with i think no leaks (Could be Wrong as i ain't done any research), This don't put many people off as for alot of the biggest gold sellers vouch selection says it all, And providing ure bill will work like that, It is to ensure the safety of Sythe users. I would like to know what a mod thinks of this Because Authenticity about a bill could be a big thing which tbf i don't know nothing about, And all you are checking in a bill is Address/Isp/Name.

Also yes people are lazy but if they have a great idea for a service, People will submit the Bill this is also to ensure that they are not a ban evader and are legit. People say i'm ban evader, Yes whatever idc what they say because i know it's not true. I Wanted to do rs services and Because of a wireless connection I got TWC, Thus put me of doing services as i cbb anymore, But i would of happily submitted my internet Bill to clear things up, I think it's easier for Mods in this contents But The only people who can actually hands down say this is a stupid suggestion or a good suggestion is the mods who actually deal with Cases like this everyday.

 

Types of IP addresses can be very difficult to identify at times. There are so many more serivces that provide dedicated private servers, which will come up exactly as a traditional home IP. However, we have ways to identify this and its generally done at the staff members discretion.

A TWC is not a permanent mark and if it is falsely applied, it generally gets removed quickly. I understand that this could cause new users to have a bad first impression, but it can also be interpreted as a higher level of security for our users.

This is not the case. We generally see a lot of users join on mobile devices. This would come up as a wireless connection and we would apply a TWC to the account until we can see a recognizable home IP, if the user only has wireless internet, we would then ask for proof of this by a photo of their internet bill.

We will not ask every TWC home IP user for proof of an internet bill, because that is not necessary. Thank you for the suggestion, but this has been denied.