[DENIED] new "no-sketch/safe trader" rank

Because a lot of vouched people are ex-scammers or have many controversial reports on them for sketchy activity i'm suggesting a new rank to encourage relatively trusted people that always follow safe market practices and to make it easier for users to sort out sketchy people . Still not sure how exactly this rank should be called but it should be something in the lines of "safe trader"

Requirements for rank:
1.100 or more quality(not 1-10$/primes) vouches that required someone to trust you (vouches like going first to a gold site are useless)
2.Must not have any valid reports for scamming or number of reports for bad market practices
3.Years of being active in the market
4.Staff could deny application for a rank if they don't feel like the user is "Safe" enough even if they meet all the requirements

These are just some realistic requirements that came into my mind, and i would like them to be as high as possible with any sketchy behavior taking it away.


If this suggestion won't pass which most likely it won't the rank only meaning that the user has never had any outstanding scam reports like "clean history" rank for old sythe members would be nice. As i don't feel like all the ex-scammers/shady people should be equal to users that have never been involved in any shady shit

 

I support this, but not for a trusted user, the mods / middlemen have a form of trust from that, sometimes twcs and dnts just do not do the job for some people.
With a trusted rank i feel people would abuse it, something like a danger pop up when you trade someone that has a valid report / twc would work alot better than just a twc that people don't even do anything about really when they trade.
Good idea

 

There is already twc rank but it's temporary and sketchy people usually tend to repeat their behavior as soon as its removed. I agree that this rank should not say "trusted" as that would be too easy to abuse, but it should be something in the lines of "you're a lot safer trading with this user"

 

Yeah alot of people breeze past twcs, maybe something like the amount of vouches you have being listed on your profile in a certain color, so for instance if you have 100 and i have 25, it will say, also maybe something on a thread where you can see who has the least to most vouches could be an idea, but alot of people use gold sites to get vouches for like 1m sales and etc, so maybe mods can sort that issue out.

 

there is nothing u can do about that, and amount of vouches is really useless in terms of trust, if a person has 500 vouches and has came back after scamming in my eyes he is less trusted than someone with 50 quality vouches

 

Yeah but how would you determine the trust, with middlemen applications, you need to show big trades, other than that i can't really think of anything to determine how someone is 'Trusted'

 

No support, this is additional unnecessary work for staff to perform which would be better spent teaching users how to prevent getting scammed. Either way I'm sure this won't be approved.

 

You can always manually check vouches if they look legit, and check users report history

 

True that

 

We already know that people don't read any of the stickies or educational guides, and there isn't even that many people who could apply for this rank.

 

You mean besides the typical users like Veng, Jacky, Laziz, Chicks, etc?

People already know them because they are ranked in every discord server. As for regulars like us, well we would never get that rank.

I would support it but I’m positive it will be denied unfortunately.

 

Not gonna call any names, but even some of ur listed users have been involved in sketchy shit. So it would be quite hard to get this rank. This rank is not about the most trusted person but also about the ones who use safest market practices, and users who care about their reputation so you know you won't have any serious issues dealing with them. As ppl tend to repeat sketchy behavior as long as its profitable. If they lose the ability to get this rank by selling hacked gold/accounts, or just fucking someone over to save themselves temporary it might make them think twice about their future sythe business before doing such activities

 

Yes lets make a new rank that'll help people more when they decide to scamquit, People change randomly and making a rank like this that you want to give to people who only have 50-100 (even if this was 500+) is the dumbest idea ive heard

It's so easy to vouch farm i doubt vouches even mean anything to most people anymore. No support

 

If someone wants to scamquit they will do it regardless, this rank isn't about vouches it's about safe market practices and to encourage them

 

This rank will give people a false sense of trust, You'll see it all over thread titles etc. People will take advantage of it and you'll see so many people try hard to get this rank and if they have the intent to scam it'll only help more. It's just making scamming easier than it is already by handing out these ranks.

 

Pretty much ,it's a dog vs cat scenario.

We the people who are not giant gold sellers would never get the ranks, despite being equal to the market value.

 

People will be scamming regardless if they have the rank or not, i don't see any way this makes it easier as it's not something easy to get like a few vouches and donator title as most ppl do. And i'm suggesting every rank to be manually reviewed, so no sketchy users go through. Ofc there will be people who abuse it, but so does any other role on sythe including mods/cdt. The requirements for this rank could be always made higher, i just suggested something more realistic for smaller business to get. I'm expecting getting this rank having no lower requirements than becoming a mod for the site

 

While I applaud you for the well-intented suggestion, it does have some major flaws that @veng has pointed out. It will just allow malicious people to have another gateway to accomplish their goals. And for the legitimate people on the forum, no matter what business they are into (Gold Trading/Account Trading/Services), their legitimacy will spread regardless even by word of mouth alone.

I highly doubt this will pass because of the flaws it cannot address but, for me, legitimate people won't really care about something like this being implemented. It won't change how they do business and like Veng said above, vouches get to a point where they are quite meaningless to people (even me). But it's not about me so who cares

All in all, it's a well-meant suggestion but the potential for harm to users is too great, no support

 

Trust is subjective. There is no reason for the site to add a trusted rank of some sorts because an user can just scam quit at any time regardless if they are someone who trades bills daily or just someone who scams 20m. Blame would then be put on staff members for giving that user the rank. Requiring vouches really won't do much because the majority of your vouches from gold sites and big gold buyers etc are never the ones going first.

If you want to become trusted then start building a good reputation for yourself by actively trading safely. As the idea is currently suggested, no support.

 

No support, unless you set the bar as high as OMM rank, this'll only encourage even more exit-scamming as people all just make it their sole goal to get the rank and scamquit.

PROOF? Same concept of the donor rank. How many newbies we see with 100-200$ donor ranks piling on tens of vouches and then exitscamming? You got ur answer.

Case in point: @Tekashi