[DENIED] Introduce Another Community Repayment Option

Basically part of Sythe's donations go back to the community repayment thread. People get scammed daily, you need to roll a dice because there's so many people requesting repayment, and on top of that, the repayment money is money that could be going back toward developing + promoting Sythe as a whole.

A suggestion to streamline the process and make it less cluttered is to add donating what you got scammed back to the website. Perhaps I didn't make this clear enough so here's an example.

Ex. I get scammed 200$ by a 300$ rank. After a certain amount of time, I would normally just request that I get refunded 100$ at a time until I get my money back. However, maybe before then, I would have the option to waive this refund request and just donate that 200$ to the website for a $200 dollar donor rank (max 300$ donor status like 300$ repayment).

It's free on the website to give the player that rank and the 200$ someone else donated could be going towards other things Sythe related apart from refunding that player.

The 200$ will be given back to the player anyways but players might not choose that route and just give it back to the website. It's essentially donating and it makes perfect sense in my opinion.

In the end, the website we all love would have more money, repayment would be less of a clutter, and people would be happier.

The end

 

I am personally not a fan of community repayment scheme at all and have never really been,

if they wanted donor rank they just take the money they receive and just donate it, so what purposes from just removing a simple enough step?

Unless I am misunderstanding?

 

I am personally not a fan of community repayment scheme at all and have never really been,

if they wanted donor rank they just take the money they receive and just donate it, so what purposes from just removing a simple enough step?

Unless I am misunderstanding?

Repayment scheme is slow af right now. You're not going to get repaid for a long time + there's a long line.

Say after 3 months after the report, in my example above, you could choose to get a 200$ donor rank instead of waiting to get repaid. It's donation money going back to you anyways so choosing to waive to accept it for a rank would be the same thing as donating.

Also it's incentives. I'm still not a donor after all this time. If I get $300 back from all the scams that I faced, I personally wouldn't donate it. But I'm not a fan of waiting so if I could get a donation rank 3 months earlier or something, I'd prefer to get that over my 300 dollars back so that's 300 extra dollars that could be used for Sythe promotion and development. This would also clear the future lines since I wouldn't be in it and many others wouldn't be too + money that wouldn't have been donated to Sythe, would get back to Sythe.

 

Im pre sure repayment scheme is slow because theres no funds.

So you basically want sythe to give out free donor ranks while theres no money in repayment fund or so=?

 

It's not free donor ranks. Sythe will give you 300$ back eventually if you get scammed 300$.

Getting a 300$ donor rank by waiving that 300$ you were supposed to get back will solve the problem of a lack of funds in the repayment fund as donor ranks are free to generate and Sythe can keep that 300$ some other donor gave toward Sythe in the first place.

Pretend you're supposed to get 100 dollars back from the re-payment. Either you choose to donate that back to Sythe ahead of time with what I'm suggesting and it's like donating to the website. Or Sythe can just keep paying out money and the victims will keep it to themselves.

Like what I said above, when it gets to my turn for repayment, I'm probably not going to donate that money back. However, if I had the option to, I'd be happy to get that money I was supposed to get back converted into a donor rank ahead of time. That way Sythe can keep that money they were supposed to give out and I'll be happy.

I didn't do a good job explaining myself earlier on but this is a tldr
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Tldr: it's basically saying, do you want to convert the money I'm giving you into a donation rank with the extra incentive to do so of time?

The way it is now, you can keep giving out money to victims but it's not going back to the website. You can repay victims in other ways that would make them happy.

 

It's not free donor ranks. Sythe will give you 300$ back eventually if you get scammed 300$.
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Someone woud still have to wait for funds. Now scammed victims have to wait and in your suggestion sythe would have to wait [which makes no sense].

Getting a 300$ donor rank by waiving that 300$ you were supposed to get back will solve the problem of a lack of funds in the repayment fund as donor ranks are free to generate and Sythe can keep that 300$ some other donor gave toward Sythe in the first place.

^im not really sure if thats what you are implying here [correct me if i am wrong] but if i understand that right you think that sythe community repayment fund is backed with funds we donated to site ?

 

Someone woud still have to wait for funds. Now scammed victims have to wait and in your suggestion sythe would have to wait [which makes no sense].

^im not really sure if thats what you are implying here [correct me if i am wrong] but if i understand that right you think that sythe community repayment fund is backed with funds we donated to site ?

Second part was my misunderstanding, I thought the community repayment fund was backed partly by money given by donor ranks. Anyhow, the community repayment fund could go towards Sythe development because you're giving that money back to the player who got scammed but the player who got scammed would choose to covert that into a donor rank ahead of time.

What do you mean by Sythe has to wait? Donation ranks should be free to generate. Perhaps you can explain to me a little more about what you mean by that.

 

My major point was that people are getting paid back at a very slow pace + people would be happy to be paid back in other ways.

Donation ranks are one great free option that could help the site and make the players happy.

Going off what ABM said

"if they wanted donor rank they just take the money they receive and just donate it, so what purposes from just removing a simple enough step?"

If you go off the incentives of time and skipping the roll process, people would be happy to get a donor rank instead. However, if you receive the money first, they're probably not going to donate it back and will keep it.

 

What do you mean by Sythe has to wait? Donation ranks should be free to generate. Perhaps you can explain to me a little more about what you mean by that.

He means Richard would have to wait for payment.

 

He means Richard would have to wait for payment.

Ah, my suggestion was based on the premise that admins at Sythe were working together and my donations would go towards actual development rather than someone's personal income. Now I know.

People can still get paid off in donor ranks if Richard is fine paying back the victims in free generatable pixels and waiting on money in the repayment fund but given the circumstance, doesn't seem too likely.

Anyways seems like a solid idea to me still if you want to make victims happy but its a suggestion nevertheless.

 

No support. Richard isn't under any obligation to implement something like this

 

This has been asked before and it doesn't work that way, your "donation" rank is a DONATION not a public request for repayments.

You don't ask for refund when you sponsor a charity.

 

[ariabot]

Example showing how this can be abused:
-StickyTalk joins Sythe and donates $1000
-He "scams" an alt for $1000 (let's call his alt PAC) while SQing many other people
-After 3 months, PAC obtains a $1000 donor rank for free and uses that to build false trust
-He then "scams" another alt for $1000 while SQing

 

[Viking]

• People get scammed by newcomers and users that have virtually no trust daily.

• This would not help anyone, it would just be a shitshow with more alts scamming eachother for the "free donar rank."

• There are already things in place like minirank auctions to speed up repayment.
• Richard owns the site and having his current revenue stream go towards clueless users that trust every random kid on the block is pretty dumb.

No Support

 

[Pendulum]

While I understand where you're coming from, the site runs off of donations and advertisements and we have no plans of taking away from that. By giving scammed victims free donation ranks, we are taking away from the pool of potential donors - which would result in the site losing money.

The current community repayment system is working well and is approaching $12,000 repaid to scammed victims. All users have to do is apply, remain active and there is a decent chance they will get some of their funds back.

Thank you for the suggestion

 

• People get scammed by newcomers and users that have virtually no trust daily.

• This would not help anyone, it would just be a shitshow with more alts scamming eachother for the "free donar rank."

• There are already things in place like minirank auctions to speed up repayment.
• Richard owns the site and having his current revenue stream go towards clueless users that trust every random kid on the block is pretty dumb.

No Support

I share the same view as my college above, therefore I don't support this suggestion.

s/o to people who donate their money directly to the community repayment fund anonymously w/o any recognition.