[DENIED]Expanding The Official Middleman System Discussion

One thing I think Sythe has already implemented which is gold is the Official Middleman System.

It brings revenue to key members of the community
Plus creates a safer environment for visitors

But an official middleman hasn't been accepted via the current system since 2017.


I think there is a sweet spot where the system is expanded to more key members ( say there would only be about 10 eligible), making it more accessible and thus more strongly advertised to new members.

Also offering it to staff because then the staff's work would begin to be displaced, yes they would be doing more MM work , but they would be getting compensated for that and they would have to spend less time managing scam reports.

I think it's a discussion worth having, and most of you understand the community way more than I do so I was hoping I could get it started for more knowledgeable members to weigh in.

Examples of people I would consider for expanded OMM status are people like @Wortel @Pegasus @Prizford @Gladiator ect . But that process would have to be more streamlined, open for application until a number is met and voted on by staff ect. I't can't come down to one person's discretion so i can't really make a list.

Pros
More perceived security from visitors = more commerce
Staff spending more time getting compensated vs managing reports
Added revenue for key community members
Community members striving to reach OMM status= healthier environment


Cons
Implementation and execution will take time
(Feel free to add more cons)

 

So your suggestion is to have more OMMs? How would these new members be picked? Who makes that decision? Do we alter the current application process?

Can you make your suggestion a little more clear? I see what you want to happen, but I’m not sure what your vision is in terms of reaching that

 

Yea I think the key would be having more Official Middlemen so it can become a very consistent and more advertised tool.

As for how they would be picked, I think they would have to have the basic qualities of experienced, professional, well known and preferably people already actively making a name for themselves MMing like @Pegasus .

Voting I think should come from the entire staff, does the person meet the requirements ( not just OMM voting ect) and why or why not. Get the ball rolling on a few new OMM and overtime add more.

I just think the system can be expanded in many ways if discussed and planned out.

Random Ideas

Since there will be a larger influx of OMM maybe some safeguards in place to keep the security up. Such as each OMM having a thread in a section, to use them you have to post on it and they can't OMM more than one trade at a time.

Also to my knowledge no official middle man has ever scam quit which means the odds of a future scam would be astronomically low. How about taking 1% of every trade OMM performed for the first month to build an insurance policy. Then for the rest of the time the OMM service exists you can say if you use our OMM and get scammed Sythe will pay you back with the OMM fund. The odds of it needing to be done are astronomically low but it further makes visitors believe OMM are the anwser, use OMM.

Also, OMM could just become a generic sythe service as well. For example, a new user wants to use OMM they just say so in a sythe OMM thread and the first available OMM accepts the offer or is assigned . That takes out the whole picking a person thing which may be slowing it down.

 

Sythe has shot down the idea of deposits/insurance many times, so that’s unfortunately not feasible.

As it stands, the voting system you described is what is currently in place. One of the main reasons we don’t have more OMMs is due to lack of applications (there are other reasons, but this is one of them). Would you suggest bypassing the application portion and just voting on some hand selected names?

 

Yea I guess then the only way is being proactive on reaching out to members who staff deems great candidates.

As far as the insurance goes I understand why it can't work if the money isn't raised through the service, but if it was raised through the service via the 1% tax I think it could. What is the problem then, who actually holds and dispenses the insurance? Plus it's like a controlled insurance, the odds of it having to be paid out are almost none but it would increase visitors response to the service.

I edited it but I added this random idea as well

Also, OMM could just become a generic sythe service. For example, a new user wants to use OMM they just say so in a sythe OMM thread and the first available OMM accepts the offer or is assigned . That takes out the whole picking a person thing which may be slowing it down.

You could still directly work with OMM of course but if you don't know anyone on sythe you could then be assigned one.

This would mean as the numbers grow then the service would be super reliable but not require much effort from each person. For example if @Gen didn't have time to be a full OMM and get his own MM deals he could still be on the list and do one once a week or so.

Another advantage of this is it also skips your chosen MM not being available. I know I asked a few OMM but they didn't answer and /or weren't available for my trade at the time. This allows the visitor to apply with a template such as amount, time and both parties ready :yes and whoever wants to accept.

P.s I appreciate your feedback on shaping the discussion.

 

What your proposing sounds like bypassing the application and going off credibility/activity to “promote” a handful of new OMMS, and creating a sort of generic OMM trade request thread where these OMMs could accept the trades on a first-come first-serve basis. Am I understanding that correctly?

I’m not sure I see the benefit in this. More OMMs is fine, but skipping the current process to promote the active, trustworthy MMs only changes their title. They’re still available in an unofficial capacity and still trustworthy without the OMM status. Plus their services are generally free.

 

Good points.

I just think having more users with the OMM title allows sythe to advertise the OMM service more and creates an overall healthier trade environment. The current list of OMM is too low to really promote in any capacity. A new member hasn't been accepted since 2017 which leads me to believe the urgency to accept new members is low.


That OMM thread system is kind of just a random idea. I see its ultimate goal to achieve from a user standpoint :

A new user joins sythe, doesn't feel quite comfortable with a potential trade, but doesn't know anyone, sees the OMM thread advertised, posts in the OMM thread and is assigned any currently active OMM without having to choose one.

IMO that system would need to be to completely unbiased and any OMM or staff who wanted to take part in it get the same chance of linking so one is favored.

 

I’m all for having more OMMs, but I don’t think bypassing the current application process would achieve that.

Part of the reason there haven’t been any new OMMs lately is because it’s a very slow process and many applications are left pending for a long time, but it’s also very difficult to get approved in general. I don’t see that changing, so even if the application process were removed, I doubt we’d see a major increase in their numbers unless staff were more open in their approvals.

Part of the reason OMMs have such a good track record and there are so few of them is because they are considered so trustworthy, and they have proven that over a very long period of time. Giving the role out in a more lenient manner kind of goes against that imo.