[DENIED] Allow staff to "head hunt" ban evaders

Lmfaooooooo I laughed so hard I can't even

Otr tho I would suggest implementing 2FA that connects with IMEI number of your phone before allowing market access.
I have no clue if this is possible or not btw, just saw @PAK comment this and thought it was a good idea.

Is there a way to implement a notification when a user logs in from a different ISP? If so, this could potentially be monitored but then again this would be a lot of work.

Honestly there is no solid way to stop them all at once, besides promoting Wortel.

 

"Require newcomer account to enable 2FA for access to market section"

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is that not putting a limitation on accounts? Not everyone has a phone and 2fa won't stop vaders lmao.


Hunting vaders is a waste of time, They'll keep coming back no matter what. If you report them once they'll know what they did wrong and they'll just change that and come back again.

 

Was one idea of many in my post, I am more focus on easier way to track Vader and protect good users at Sythe, while make staff spend less time. I hear staff say they want user to focus more on read the rules and be safe, if new user make account who is genuine user, not Vader, first thing happen is user redirect to thread that have Sythe rules, user must post there with " I accept" or maybe few sentence introduce themselves, if is genuine user they see rules maybe help accomplish what staff want more easily, if Vader, we have post to go with, you let me and Wortel, and other user of Sythe who want help protect community and mod if want in free time, to begin hunt and find link to make Sythe safer for all.

Simple idea, less time for staff, help new user be more aware to potential scam, encourage use of MM maybe for new user help good trader get vouch who do MM.

Thoughts friends?
@Gen I see you view thread often, hopefully can comment on idea, let staff see and vote? I think can be fairly easy to implement idea and accomplish many thing all user want together as community staff and trader

 

What does posting I accept do lol? lets be real the majority of users never read anything tos related or about rules when they sign up for a site

Writing a few sentences to introduce themselves doesn't show you if someone is vading or not and some people might not care about the community etc they just want a confirmation pm or something or just to make a post they're selling gold. You're trying to ask for people to take more steps before they access the market is a waste of time since it doesn't help show whos a vader and not.

This is already done lmao there are stickies all over the place for safe trading etc. If users don't want to take the time out of their day to learn about it when the information is right there in front of their faces then there's nothing more that can really be done.

 

Disagree 100%, if all new user required post on thread, user like myself, mod, Wortel can hunt thread more visible to find Vader. If Vader more visible, higher chance to catch them, if new user forced to read rules, which should have read already as per rules page, how can this be bad?? Lol... Maybe you have no interest to catch scammer, anymore maybe since ex mod, let the user who do care help make this possible. 1 sentence won't cause inconvenience be real

 

You can't tell whos vading or not from a few sentences they write, Once they get banned the first time they'll change the way they type and talk. You can't force anyone to read the rules??? they'll scroll by it and act like they did. You can't FORCE anyone to read something lmao.

It's not about whether i care or not i just know for a fact what you said won't work lmao it's a waste of time trying to get those things added and i'm sure staff would agree.

You saying 1 sentence won't cause inconvenience but 1 sentence won't help shit either. All they have to type is here to sell gold and done? It's a waste of time

 

Few things,
1. You miss the point 100% on this, I just report this user for doing what you claim they will not do, so you are wrong. Proof: Senor Dingdong...

2. Point is not to get user to make mistake, point is to allow visibility to user who hunt Vader and see all newcomer account in one area, make link easier between user who make multiple account, bump their own thread, fake vouch, etc. Can see join dates/ban dates, user slip up often, have you even seen Report ban evader lately? If not go look before make another comment that is incorrect and assumption of your opinion vs facts.

3. If this is done, only time taken of staff is to make so newcomer are redirect to rules of Sythe page, and required to post, if you think one post on forum is world of inconvenience, something is wrong. Yes not every user will see rule, obviously, some user who want to make sure they are safe and not get scammed will read, I did read when I joined, I have not been scammed so far by this. Thankfully. And last point, nobody said "force" you did. Nobody is force to read the rules, they should to make sure they follow the rules to avoid ban, waste staff time to give infractions from user not read or follow the rules. Is meant to help some user, not all, and also expose potential Vader so easier to match and find for non staff who do want to help this community (me, Wortel, Andy, few other and staff who post in report Vader section recently I see of).

You are miss the point, take this and exxagerated, be over dramatic (pic unnecessary). I am asking a genuine request to help the community, if you do not want to see positive change that can help staff spend less time to find match for Vader by expose new account they make to head Hunter like ABM say, and let non staff help too who have valid report, you are mistaken then of whole point of this idea.

 

@PAK theres no point trying to keep going with you lmao. I said my points and i stand by them.

Nothing you said imo will help catch ban evaders and they're not worth adding in.

 

@PAK

I mean I don't know why your trying to hard to stop something that just won't ever be stopped

If staff can't even catch people before approving a thread in market sales someone making a account the exact same way as they would just using a disposable phone number or throwaway phone numbers isn't going to make any difference

The market has already gone to shit with how the thread approval system works, theres pretty much no new threads ever anymore, rarely. if you suggested the phone thing before thread approval then probably would of been a good idea

But theres already a lack of new threads happening on sythe and I'd say the biggest reason is because it's not as simple to just type and create a thread anymore, your waiting atleast 4-8 hours if your lucky before a staff member approves it

The only way to really stop people being scammed by ban evaders is just educating the new people not to go first like firez said.

love you though

 

This proves all the more why we need to do something about users able to just make account so easily and post wherever, and whatever. I understand this is a free market, some kind of improved security measures so user can't do what he does, makes ton of proxy account probably under 5-10 minutes let account age and use to make thread to scam the community. Don't care for backlash or hate, I will try to tackle issue regardless of unfavored opinion here if pose a security risk to main purpose of site "sythe.org, marketplace of goods". Users being scammed is bad for business, turns off idea of new users wanting to join if there are many users who are being scammed. Rather than approach from a philosophical stand point, try to approach from a solutional one.

 

We've had this identical suggestion time and time again with the same arguments every time.

1. It's not worth infinite time to go after evaders.

2. Rebuttal: But it's the moderators prerogative to waste their own time if they want to.

3. It's a better use of that time, if you truly have good intentions, to educate users about trading on Sythe and make a actual difference instead of making Sythe moderators look like sharks in the water out for blood.

4. Rebuttal: But but....you love scammers!

5. No, we have just been here long enough to know how this cycle works and we want to make a real difference even if it's incremental.

 

Thanks, but we're going to deny this suggestion.

On top of what was already said in my previous post - We have no desire to invade the privacy of the users on Sythe. Staff tools are for staff members to assist and respond to the requests, reports, suggestions etc from the community and nothing more. Should you have any questions, you can message me privately.