Evolution or creation: how did human beings come about?

I believe this is allowed.
What do you believe in? Evolution or Creation.
Post here with some backup, and prepare to debate.

 

Evolution is my preferred theory given that so many fossils have been found and documented in the fossil record. We also know that many of the things found in the holy books of today simply cannot be true, though I'll spare the examples unless someone really wants me to explain.

My beliefs run deep but not deep enough to consider the concept of any deity a possibility, much-less a reality. I strive to stay in the realm of the actual, the logical, and the rational.

 

Please do tell.

 

http://www.bidstrup.com/bible2.htm

Cherry picking the one that stood out the most to me:

I don't agree with some of the things on this website because it does seem that he is nitpicking the wording, but a lot of this stuff is relevant. The Bible is FULL of contradictions, as are other holy books I'm sure (though the Bible is the one I'm most familiar with).

The website I linked doesn't even address any things that could be explained away by 'miracles' or 'magic', because arguing that with someone who believes in them is like punching a brick wall... Example: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Young_Earth_creationism

One can argue that not all Christians believe the Earth is as young as that claim states but it does not change the fact it's in the Bible. My whole point was that if the book is wrong about certain things, why should I trust it? Why put faith into something that has had large portions of it discredited or at the very least cast doubt over by science? Blind faith is nothing short of ignorance.

 

How did human beings come about? We evolved, quite simple.

Creationism and Intelligent Design is quite simply wrong on the basis of it's, not lack of justification, but NO justification. There is no reason whatsoever to believe in Early Earth Creationism or Intelligent Design, aside from the arbitrary.

Why do I believe in Evolution over the two aforementioned theories? Well, aside from the hundreds of thousands of peer reviewed journals, aside from the observable affects in nature (micro evolution) aside from how DNA of our ancestors (Chimpanzee) so closely resembles our own DNA, but more importantly aside from the fact my evidence is not rooted on quite literally nothing.

I have heard I believe every single argument from Intelligent Design advocates, and most from Early Earth Creationists. Put any argument forward and I'll show you why it doesn't stack up with regards to this topic.

 

You're being too generous. ID/creationism aren't event theories (in the scientific sense of the word), as they have no supporting evidence; rather, they are falsified hypotheses. We also aren't descended from chimps.

Evolution isn't about how life began. >_<

Creationism is a fucking joke. No intelligent person can look at the evidence from the fossil record, comparative anatomy, and DNA sequencing (just to name a few) and conclude that creationism is correct.

 

Evolution as most aspects of how life began can be supported with rock solid evidence.

 

Hmm, I don't think we'll be seeing any creation in this thread..
I agree too, on evolution, for reason, stated above.

 

Anyone who posts with creationism has to basis to argue their point on.

This thread is going to die to the lack of any logic that creationism has.

Evolution is my opinion, due to their being any evidence to support it whatsoever.

 

I was referring to the basis of both theories. Creationism is to religion as evolution is to science, so therefore I support science as the answer to both the beginning of the universe and the reasoning behind how we got from a single cell organism to what we are today. If you're not including the creation of the universe in how you're supporting evolution, then you can't accurately compare it to creationism because at the moment of the theological event; heavens, earth, AND life were created sequentially. Therefore, evolution specific to the species of earth does not cover all points explained (incorrectly IMO) with creationism.

 

No evidence is rock solid.

 

I can give you an example of rock solid evidence, and pardon the pun, but science has disproved the projected age of the Earth by theologists by carbon dating some of Earth's oldest fossils and rocks. These are generally very accurate measurements, and if that weren't enough, their procedure for dating the age of sediment in the oceanic/coastal regions is also very accurate. (Something to do with the layers of different compositions, and the very specific scar left behind post-ice age)

The fact that science disproves the possibility that the earth and the human race were created in the same period of time deflates the Christian version of creationism.

 

I believe in a mix of both. I have no belief in a biblical beginning of any kind. I do, however, believe in a greater power, or being. This is mostly because of my own personal spiritual/paranormal experiences, and the fact that I don't believe the entire universe just came about out of nothing.

I completely agree that we as humans, as well as the other life on this planet, and possibly others, came about by the means of evolution. However, I believe that what sparked all of this was a force or being far beyond our comprehension.

 

Evolution, to even think some god popped out of know where and just started making stuff but only on earth is the most wacky idea ever. How millions and millions believe shows how dumb some people are

 

Actually, god didn't just "pop out of nowhere", Christians made an even more ridiculous explanation: according to them, God is and always was. He was never born, never created, never non-existent, and never will be.

Oh my

 

Makes complete sense.
OT; I feel there can't be reasonable explanation for creation at all, was hoping to see a good debate on one though.

 

Anyone with half a brain comes back and says " Then why couldn't the universe just have existed forever? "

Then a giant mindfuck ensues.

 

Humans created Religion and Creationism as a lie to make themselves feel better. They like to think that beyond death, there is something more than nothingness. The people who believe in religion have minds that are ill-suited to facing reality.

 

This is a very bigoted statement... You do realize that you've just called about 5 billion people unrealistic and delusional, yes? I can list several religious figures who are also extremely down to earth, several being highly inspirational leaders.

 

Ermm, I believe not? Sure, this may make sense to the "super-religious" people, who follow there life based off of these morals or whatever, but saying that someone who believes in religion is not capable of facing reality, is stupid. If that's what you were getting at.